Injectable 3-Alpha?

[Forum User X]

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These threads above are PubMed studies that DHT does in fact get rid of gyno. I have gyno and have been applying 3-Alpha transdermally for a couple of weeks now. However these studies show that tissue is significantly reduced (67-78% in one study) in just 2-4 weeks time. I know 3-Alpha is not DHT but it does convert to it at 43% efficiency. It does appear that according to these studies, the DHT was injected but I may be misunderstanding the studies.

So my questions are:

1) Is it possible to inject 3-Alpha? If so, what should be the chemical composition of materials for me to inject?
2) Where should I inject? In the tissue? In the pecs but not in the tissue? I'm sure there is someone who is knowledgeable on that subject.
3) Or is transdermal application enough and will do the job? I'm very curious if 3-Alpha is even doing much good transdermally or is so weak that its not doing a bit of good? I put in 3 grams of 3-Alpha into a 120 ml bottle of Absolved and have been applying 4 ml daily.

Thank you. This may help me and others who have this problem and would rather not pay out the ass for (going by the studies), unnecessary plastic surgery.

 

[Forum User X]

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Here's a thread about the issue but it didn't seem like the question was answered. So does anyone know? I want to get the supplies ready. Would a kit from Eagle Research be a good idea?

 

[Alpha Dog]

The first thing I would be weary of is the solubility of 3-alpha. Its solubility is crap. I know this from making a 3-alpha intransal pre-workout homebrew. Get it into solution was a pain in the ass.

I was able to get it into solution at about 20-mg’s/ml in a transdermal.

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So, how is its solubility going to be in a BA/BB solution. I don’t know, but it may not be great.

The other thing, it may be painful. Otherwise, I’m not much help.

 

[Forum User X]

Thanks bow; any help is appreciated. Since 3-Alpha converts to DHT at 43%, I only need a very small amount. I'm thinking at the very most, 10 mg of 3-Alpha per pec. So it won't be as much as say 100 mg per injection. I'm reading up at Avant Labs, which may have a solution. Any help is needed as well. I won't start this for another two months, I just want all the supplies in my reach before I begin.

 

[Alpha Dog]

Thanks bow; any help is appreciated. Since 3-Alpha converts to DHT at 43%, I only need a very small amount. I'm thinking at the very most, 10 mg of 3-Alpha per pec. So it won't be as much as say 100 mg per injection. I'm reading up at Avant Labs, which may have a solution. Any help is needed as well. I won't start this for another two months, I just want all the supplies in my reach before I begin.

For your purposes, I'd almost speculate that a transdermal designed for slow systematic release would be better than injectible. That way you would acutally get some improved site specific tissue targeted as compared to injectible. Take a look at the forumla I used for a tissue transdermal (for joint care).

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Food for thought. Hope that helps.

 

[Forum User X]

You are right. I'll just stick to transdermal applications. Getting rid of some of the localized fat will probably reduce aromatizing activity as well, which the Absolved will cover. Mods, if you want to delete this thread, feel free.

 

[milwood]

Anybody got feedback on 3-alpha dosing schedule for t/d from experience? if 150mg/day is a good amount, should this dose be divided a.m. and p.m., or done pre-workout perhaps?

 

[Odessa14]

Bow
Do you think youre carrier would be the most beneficial despite the fat burning effects of Ab-Solved?

O14

 

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Bow
Do you think youre carrier would be the most beneficial despite the fat burning effects of Ab-Solved?

O14

just as important - are you sure 3-alpha is hydrophilic and not lipophilic? i would guess the latter. also, wouldnt a sub-q transdermal (ie. lipoderm) be more ideal than a VAT targeted fat loss TD?

 

[Alpha Dog]

Anybody got feedback on 3-alpha dosing schedule for t/d from experience? if 150mg/day is a good amount, should this dose be divided a.m. and p.m., or done pre-workout perhaps?

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150 mg/day is a little on the high side imo. Yes, should be divided am and pm unless you are only using as a pw stimulant.

 

[Alpha Dog]

Bow
Do you think youre carrier would be the most beneficial despite the fat burning effects of Ab-Solved?

O14

To he honest, I'm not sure. I like ab-solved for targeted delivery. I think they would both be effective.

 

[Alpha Dog]

just as important - are you sure 3-alpha is hydrophilic and not lipophilic? ?

I'm not sure, but you very well may be right.

also, wouldnt a sub-q transdermal (ie. lipoderm) be more ideal than a VAT targeted fat loss TD?

Here's where I think you may splitting hairs. I believe it is very hard to make a true 100% local transdermal. It is my belief that everything eventually gets absorbed systematically once you get past the epidermis. You can slow down the rate of absorption to get some targeted effects. Although, I undertand this has been a highly debated subject and I cant pretend to be the authority.

 

[Forum User X]

For your purposes, I'd almost speculate that a transdermal designed for slow systematic release would be better than injectible.

Transdermals I think are good (thats why Andractim for gyno is in transdermal form and not injectable) but I was just curious if there was a more effective alternative. I'll just stick with Absolved and adding in 3-Alpha. I'm just wanting the gyno to be gone. I'm already seeing results in 2 1/2 weeks but I guess you can consider me an impatient man. Thanks for your help.

if 150mg/day is a good amount

I added in 3.2 g of 3-Alpha in Absolved which with 30 days of application comes out to be 106 2/3 mg of 3-Alpha. I just heard that the matrices of Absolved are best for 3-Alpha. Of course that might be for gyno but you never know. Also, with 25-50% success with transdermals and converting at DHT, that comes out to be 11.5 to 22.9 mg of DHT. At 150 mg a day, you're putting in 30-60 mg of DHT daily. Thats quite a bit of DHT to be putting through your body but I guess its no different than taking 5 MDHT capsules without owning your liver. I have ~96.8 grams left of this stuff so I'm going to be the 3-Alpha guinea pig. Its working for gyno quite nicely and am impressed with how fast results have come (over 1/4" reduction in size so far and there's at least two weeks left until the bottle is out)

I'm also going to make homemade Hung. I think it may work because with places like Thunder's Place, members who have PE'd for a long time have noted that their piece gets a lot hairier, which implies some type of DHT activity. I'll designate that for my cycle log thread but I think 3-Alpha has a lot of potential and plan to do a lot with it in 2-3 years.