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Infertility??????

noob

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On the bottle of one+ it says infertility may occur. Is this a big problem ???? I havent heard much talk of it on these boards, whats up with that???? How often does this occur???? argh im scared ;(
 
noob said:
On the bottle of one+ it says infertility may occur. Is this a big problem ???? I havent heard much talk of it on these boards, whats up with that???? How often does this occur???? argh im scared ;(
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Its a big problem is you refuse to use post cycle recovery. But everyone that buys a 1-Test, PH product honestly do not know they have to have something like 6-oxo, etc to recover fully since NO ads ever state this which I think should be a crime in itself. So that warning has to be included to save their asses.
 
pjorstad said:
Well yellowjacket it just takes longer to recover but it certainly is not permanent.


Am i wrong?
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Yes. I dont see how anyone could leave testicular atrophy alone, unless you dont give a **** about them or need them. Over time you will become infertile if you neglect to restore the twins.
 
No one ever really talks about it, because no one really thinks there is a problem. But, how would most of the users(ph or AS) know anyway without a blood/semen test? I think there may be a bigger problem than a lot of the guys actually know.
 
**** i want to become infertile.

Yellowjacket how long would you probably have to be on to become permanently infertible without any hcg and nolva to get the boys back.
 
It really depends on the individual, and you will recover in time in most cases without post cycle aids, but it will take much much longer, and you will lose a lot of what you worked for.

I caveat that by saying you will recover naturally from a shorter cycle, and not many of them. The longer the cycle, the higher the risks, the more cycles, the higher the risk. Run a year long PH/AAS cycle and you are probably going to have issues for a long time, if not forever

How long/how many cycles..isnt a number someone can really determine. It is based on each individual. Some could run test a year and be fine, others could run one 12 week cycle and have issues forever.

YJ is correct, it is reprehensible how most of these supp companies will pump out the PHs and not even touch on recovery.

It is also why I support banning PHs in a lot of ways. Too many people are doing them, and have NO idea what they are doing to themselves.
 
I agree that pot cycle therapy is not an option, it is a MUST. But I dont agree ont he banning of prohormones, the mai reason they want to ban them is because too many teens are using them, it would be great if they cold put some restriction on the sale, say 18 to buy or something like that, but for thsi to happen they have to acknowledge that they work, and we all know Ph's dont work:rolleyes: .
 
One thing to add is that if there is no post cycle recovery, and the testicles atrophy, not only can you become infertile but you may no longer be able to produce testosterone. This means no keeping of gains or making any gains at all. Then you will need hormone replacement therapy.
 
I kinda thought infertile was a good thing unless you want more rug rats runnin' 'round. Now, impotent is a bad thing - infertile... good, impotent - bad, infertile - good...
 
I bought various prohormones from maximuscle years ago, and took them between the age of about 17.5 and 18.5. It's hard to remember exact cycles used but I'm pretty sure I did 2 three-month cycles with no pct. I think they included 19-Nor and some others, probably none of which are as strong as Methyl 1-Test etc.

I know this makes me sound like an idiot but this was years ago ( I'm 23 now) and there was no information made available to me. It was only when I got online and started reading up that I realised I had messed up. The supplement companies should be legally forced to supply this information.

Anyway I've now got a two year old kid, and I seriously fvcked up with PH's. So I wouldn't be too worried about infertility especially if you use post cycle recovery.
 
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