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ignit3 and prohormones

ManuR

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Hi guys,
i would like to know more about the interaction of st. john wart with prohormones (msten, trest, basically methyls and nonmethyls)
i guess it is not advised to take ignit3 while on cycle, correct?
thanks guys!
 
^^^ This. I usually try and stay away from pre's with stims in them when on cycle. If I do take a pre I will check my bp daily.
 
thanks but thats not exactly my question :P
there is some interaction between the st johns wart extract and prohormones, something to do with the liver breaking them down i think.
some1 knows a bit more about this?
i do take stims on cycle, less than off but still..
its about the st. johns wart and prohormones (methyls, nonmethyls)
thanks!
 
ManuR said:
thanks but thats not exactly my question
there is some interaction between the st johns wart extract and prohormones, something to do with the liver breaking them down i think.
some1 knows a bit more about this?
i do take stims on cycle, less than off but still..
its about the st. johns wart and prohormones (methyls, nonmethyls)
thanks!
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Not quite the answer you're looking for but more of an FYI. You could go with bloodshr3d, I believe that has no st. Johns in it.
 
ManuR said:
thanks but thats not exactly my question :P
there is some interaction between the st johns wart extract and prohormones, something to do with the liver breaking them down i think.
some1 knows a bit more about this?
i do take stims on cycle, less than off but still..
its about the st. johns wart and prohormones (methyls, nonmethyls)
thanks!
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xtyler NoAddedHmones

Regardless, I'd be extremely cautious of taking Ignite on cycle. I'm not exactly sure why one would.
 
What studies have you looked into and what was the size and respresentation of the population? Or is this nased on n=1 Bro Science (which is still important....wouldnt buy a cookbook from a guy who never cooked a meal).
 
jesus_sanchez said:
What studies have you looked into and what was the size and respresentation of the population? Or is this nased on n=1 Bro Science (which is still important....wouldnt buy a cookbook from a guy who never cooked a meal).
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yeah ofc its nased on bro science, i lift since yesterday and have no clue bout anything..
next pls
 
well, it is in ignit3 from OL which i would like to try.
but i guess since im on cycle ill have to wait..
sorry for my last post..
 
I have already addressed this issue with xtyler. He more or less recognized the potential for interaction with IGNIT3 and prohormones by recommending that they are not dosed at the same time. However, hyperforin has a an estimated half life of one day and maybe more. Therefore it would not matter how much you separated the dosing. In general, it makes sense to not take IGNIT3 (St John's Wort) with prohormones as there is most likely less conversion taking place. This is why I requested that they offer a version of IGNIT3 that substitutes the SJW with something else. Some may say to just choose a different fat burner. Problem is, IGNIT3 is arguably the most effective and enjoyable of them all to run. As far as running fat burners period alongside a prohormone, I have never had any problems. Everybody is certainly different though...
 
Ricky10 said:
I have already addressed this issue with xtyler. He more or less recognized the potential for interaction with IGNIT3 and prohormones by recommending that they are not dosed at the same time. However, hyperforin has a an estimated half life of one day and maybe more. Therefore it would not matter how much you separated the dosing. In general, it makes sense to not take IGNIT3 (St John's Wort) with prohormones as there is most likely less conversion taking place. This is why I requested that they offer a version of IGNIT3 that substitutes the SJW with something else. Some may say to just choose a different fat burner. Problem is, IGNIT3 is arguably the most effective and enjoyable of them all to run. As far as running fat burners period alongside a prohormone, I have never had any problems. Everybody is certainly different though...
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Bloodshr3d, no sjw
 
Yeah, I have Bloodshred. Not quite so impressed with that as I was with IGNIT3. It does not have SJW but it also does not have virtually everything else in IGNIT3. Also, I need something in capsule form as I am always on the go.
 
Ricky10 said:
Yeah, I have Bloodshred. Not quite so impressed with that as I was with IGNIT3. It does not have SJW but it also does not have virtually everything else in IGNIT3. Also, I need something in capsule form as I am always on the go.
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You could always cap it yourself. I've done it before with supplements that taste like crap. It is a bit tedious though.

Which BS are you using? Raw or War?
 
I have both here. I use them both sparingly as I also currently use CU and I don't want to get desensitized to J Regia. I won't be capping either to be honest. I will just have to look elsewhere the next time I am looking to cut while on cycle.
 
Ricky10 said:
I have already addressed this issue with xtyler. He more or less recognized the potential for interaction with IGNIT3 and prohormones by recommending that they are not dosed at the same time. However, hyperforin has a an estimated half life of one day and maybe more. Therefore it would not matter how much you separated the dosing. In general, it makes sense to not take IGNIT3 (St John's Wort) with prohormones as there is most likely less conversion taking place. This is why I requested that they offer a version of IGNIT3 that substitutes the SJW with something else. Some may say to just choose a different fat burner. Problem is, IGNIT3 is arguably the most effective and enjoyable of them all to run. As far as running fat burners period alongside a prohormone, I have never had any problems. Everybody is certainly different though...
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thanks for your detailed information!
so i guess my ignit3 goes into the stash until im clean :D
is a STW-free version doable @ OL?
i have also bought bloodshred war and yhcl caps, so im g2g.. but would love to try ignit3 anyway (great formula!)
 
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