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IGF-1 & clen

Longdog

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Just got mine from MR. I am considering running 25 days without androgens for body composition improvement. I'm going to start at 20mcg/day IM & only increase if needed. I know guys are reporting significant fat loss on IGF-1 L3 with maintenance cals or even slightly above.

I'm thinking of adding clen & possibly lipoderm for the abdomen. Will clen/yohimbine increase the fat loss effects of the IGF-1, or would I have to be in a defecit? I know the IGF alone will mobilize fat stores, but can I havent found any info on whether you can increase that. Any thoughts?
 
Clen and IGF should not be mixed if i remember correctly - i will look for the reasoning and get back to you.
 
I'd use ECA with the IGF-1 R3 for 3 weeks, then clen for two weeks (w/o the igf-1 r3) then back to the ECA and IGF-1 R3. For a nice 8 week cutter.

(I know that's longer than you said you wanted to do but I wouldn't run the clen same time)

Work as if you were not using anything at all and trying to achieve the results you're after. Let the IGF-1 R3 do it's magic and you will be happy.

I'd like to hear what anyone else thinks about that cycle for cutting?

Just my .02
 
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Don't mix the two. I was using about 160mcg of Clen with 40mcg IGF and a few days ago I thought I was gonna go into a diabetic comma or something. Read my post "IGF and dizzyness" I stopped the clen 2days ago and have been fine since then and still using IGF.
 
Make sure you run ketotifen when your on clen You can run it for ages I'm up to 4 weeks straight on clen, what it does it keeps for beta 2 receptors open all the time, making it so you do not have to cycle on an off ever 2 weeks. take ketotifen 2x a week after your first 2 weeks on clen.
 
IMO your better off just going with igf. Clens effects are only temporary and the rebound effect isn't worth it. If your dieting for a show then go for it, but just to lose fat I'd stick with igf personally. Not to mention clen is hell on your heart.
 
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