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If you could do it over again ...first cycle you would run

400mg of test e
Heavy hitting oral of your choice
It's as simple as that. No need to complicate it like I did my first cycle
 
Do not, I repeat....do not run a ph for your cycle.

500 test e per week 12 weeks.

Prohormones are ****.
 
My first cycle was Halodrol. Looking back I would of done one more week and had Stano as a test base and pre loaded with taurine.
 
Firstcycle said:
I am tired of the normal ..I want to get huge I have been kicking around pinning for a year and this is my year to jump in.....if you could do it over what would be your first run on cycle...I am 29 btw
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Awesome threat!
I was an total idiot when I did my first cycle (now I'm just an ordinary idiot), even though I read a lot beforehand. First off, I was too fat and my lipids were out of whack when I did it.
It was a disastrous Test/Deca cycle of 12 weeks. Heavy Estro sides, crashed my E because out of fear of gyno, felt ****ty through the whole cycle....no gains at the end, because of lethargy, e-sides, high BPand anorexia.

I wish I would have:
-dieted down to at least 20% BF -better lower (I was 30% but thought to be 25%)
-checked my blood before
-switched Deca for NPP
-injected 2x 250mg test-e/week instead of 1x500mg/week
 
Quest said:
Prohormones are ****.
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Before you go making such a declarative statement, let me ask you, do you even know what a prohormone is?

No one in this thread has recommended a prohormone. Epistane, halodrol, and methylstenbolone are all designer steroids.
 
Oh my bad, I meant do not run a ph or epistane, haladrol, msten etc for your first cycle.
 
ChocolateClen said:
My first cycle was Epi with no on cycle support and no pct. talk about a dumbass
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Live and learn, brother! I came here clueless like a year and a half ago also. I knew better than to run things without doing research, but I had wasted enough money on underdosed goods to teach myself a good lesson haha.
 
Rhadam said:
This is completely baseless. I award you no points, and may you never post your uninformed opinion on these boards again.
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It isn't completely baseless. I, too, wish I would have jumped right into real gear. I thought this thread was what we would do if we could do it over. It seems to me like guy wouldn't run DS or PH. That may not be right for everyone, but this thread is about what WE would do again given the chance.

I would run them as a kicker/adjunct/finisher but I sure wouldn't make a cycle out of them like I did before.
 
Quest said:
Do not, I repeat....do not run a ph for your cycle.

500 test e per week 12 weeks.

Prohormones are ****.
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With a handful of PHs/DSs I could get OP gains that would be impossible with 500mg test/wk. Hell even a 1g of test a week.
 
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