If or when you hit a wall what exactly do you do? No gains/stagnate gains, can't eat, the list could go on, what do you do?

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In the event when you hit a wall what exactly do you do? stagnate gains, can't eat, the list could go on, what do you do?

Cross posted because I wanna hear what you solids have to say about this here in THIS community
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As the title says "When you hit a wall what do you do? stagnate gains, can't, can't sleep or just lost your motivation...
What do YOU do to keep pressing forward during your most testing times?
Post your thoughts here...

Let's hear some feedback from our members in which they could share for other readers..
When you hit a wall head on...

1)What suggestions would you give to someone in the same circumstance...
2)To simplify things.. let's say the individual has at least two years on the grind with dieting and training..

Let's give the readers some feedback, tips, protocols and whatever else you can think of that could better assist people alike in this lifestyle of "self improvement"..

Your brutha from the grind,
Vision
 
Well, the symptoms sound a lot like overtraining to me. So, in that case... Find a way to get more sleep. Take a couple of rest days. Trim back overall work volume and employ reactive deload methods.
 
jrock645 said:
Well, the symptoms sound a lot like overtraining to me. So, in that case... Find a way to get more sleep. Take a couple of rest days. Trim back overall work volume and employ reactive deload methods.
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This isn't about someone or a particular instances, just rather when we hit a wall in this lifestyle..
Everyone, somewhere hits a wall..

What do we do when we hit these walls??!?!
 
~Vision~ said:
This isn't about someone or a particular instances, just rather when we hit a wall in this lifestyle..
Everyone, somewhere hits a wall..

What do we do when we hit these walls??!?!
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Well, those are things I do when hitting a wall, besides adding gear if It’s been a while. Sometimes I have trouble eating if I’m just straight sick of the food I’ve been eating, so I’ll change my meals up even if I have to get a bit dirty here and there to get appetite back up- but that’s a short term fix and I typically get back on plan quick.

Switching out a couple exercises can help but that’s mostly mental- though sometimes walls are very mental.
 
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jrock645 said:
Well, those are things I do when hitting a wall, besides adding gear if It’s been a while. Sometimes I have trouble eating if I’m just straight sick of the food I’ve been eating, so I’ll change my meals up even if I have to get a bit dirty here and there to get appetite back up- but that’s a short term fix and I typically get back on plan quick.

Switching out a couple exercises can help but that’s mostly mental- though sometimes walls are very mental.
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there we go.. thats the type of reply we need up in this topic.. keep'em coming..
Lets hear what everyone does..
Im right there with you on the brick wall with food.. I'm so programmed to eat one way Im so mechanical about it, but I do have my down days, and like you suggested about changing food,flavors color of meals, portion sizes and so on, just for mind over matter.. mentally it works. I'll eat in bowls, than switch to plates, and so on..

Ahh, Music, can't forget about adding new tunes and what not. I'll even put on tunes just while I eat to get in a zone.
 
from a mindset perspective I look back at where I’ve come from (alcoholic, 322lbs, 50% BF) to remind myself why I do what I do now. I take some time to think about the benefits to my kids from daddy being healthier (yes I use aas but I optimise my health in every other way). That always helps to give some context and helps me see the lifestyle in a more positive light.

some specific changes

training location - I find changing where I train can do wonders if in a training rut

introduce a new training style (obviously changing from strength to hyperthropy focus can work as well but for me a new style works better), e.g bfr, super slow, negatives. I find a month of something like this (even as a bolt on to a normal session) works great

food - this is extreme but I actually did it for 3 months up to Dec last year......introduction of dietary restrictions (I went vegetarian). Now I love meat and will never be veggie or vegan, I did it purely to make myself think about food from scratch again. Literally I used to plan a meal by thinking about what meat I had and then putting some stuff with it, the change made me start again, look for recipes etc (I love food so have to eat well), really did get me back engaging in the kitchen and got me out of a food rut.
 
When I first got serious about working out many moons ago, nobody that I personally knew worked harder, or was more dedicated than myself (seriously).

But what I came to realize, was that I wasn't giving enough recovery time or sleep time. And I knew very little about Cortisol control at the time. So I walked around VERY sore much of the time, and left Soo many gains on the table.

Everybody that looked at me was envious of my physic, but they had no idea how much I was missing out on.

By looking at others' past shortcomings, we can sometimes avoid those pitfalls ourselves.
:-)
 
Whisky said:
from a mindset perspective I look back at where I’ve come from (alcoholic, 322lbs, 50% BF) to remind myself why I do what I do now. I take some time to think about the benefits to my kids from daddy being healthier (yes I use aas but I optimise my health in every other way). That always helps to give some context and helps me see the lifestyle in a more positive light.

some specific changes

training location - I find changing where I train can do wonders if in a training rut

introduce a new training style (obviously changing from strength to hyperthropy focus can work as well but for me a new style works better), e.g bfr, super slow, negatives. I find a month of something like this (even as a bolt on to a normal session) works great

food - this is extreme but I actually did it for 3 months up to Dec last year......introduction of dietary restrictions (I went vegetarian). Now I love meat and will never be veggie or vegan, I did it purely to make myself think about food from scratch again. Literally I used to plan a meal by thinking about what meat I had and then putting some stuff with it, the change made me start again, look for recipes etc (I love food so have to eat well), really did get me back engaging in the kitchen and got me out of a food rut.
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Hey I did not know about your past and all the life changes you managed to make. Just wanted to say congrats and keep going. I’m al alcoholic who’s been sober for almost 2 years now and I do know the struggle.
 
~Vision~ said:
there we go.. thats the type of reply we need up in this topic.. keep'em coming..
Lets hear what everyone does..
Im right there with you on the brick wall with food.. I'm so programmed to eat one way Im so mechanical about it, but I do have my down days, and like you suggested about changing food,flavors color of meals, portion sizes and so on, just for mind over matter.. mentally it works. I'll eat in bowls, than switch to plates, and so on..

Ahh, Music, can't forget about adding new tunes and what not. I'll even put on tunes just while I eat to get in a zone.
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yes, music...I bought a pioneer amp, garrard turntable and bose 901 speakers at duty free store in naples Italy back in 78, I stored them at mom's house until 89 when I retuned from living in PI for 7 years and I have kept them in pristine condition also have over 200 classic rock vinyl albums from 70's....my home gym is in basement and when I put volume to 5 the whole house vibrates and windows shake...when my wife isn't home I like to play Kashmir at 7 and It feels like a earthquake...motivation like no other!!!
 
Mathb33 said:
Hey I did not know about your past and all the life changes you managed to make. Just wanted to say congrats and keep going. I’m al alcoholic who’s been sober for almost 2 years now and I do know the struggle.
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thanks mate. And congrats on 2 years. One day at a day brother
 
For me if my gains become stagnant, ill switch up my routine. Im always changing exercises every 4-6 weeks, but ill also have to change the rep ranges and tempo every 10 -12 weeks. Deload as needed. Also every one in a while if i feel burntout ill take 2 weeks off so i can come back strong.
 
For me if my gains become stagnant, ill switch up my routine. Im always changing exercises every 4-6 weeks, but ill also have to change the rep ranges and tempo every 10 -12 weeks. Deload as needed. Also every one in a while if i feel burntout ill take 2 weeks off so i can come back strong.
 
Joshinator said:
For me if my gains become stagnant, ill switch up my routine. Im always changing exercises every 4-6 weeks, but ill also have to change the rep ranges and tempo every 10 -12 weeks. Deload as needed. Also every one in a while if i feel burntout ill take 2 weeks off so i can come back strong.
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I proceed very similarly! Good stuff
 
For me if my gains become stagnant, ill switch up my routine. Im always changing exercises every 4-6 weeks, but ill also have to change the rep ranges and tempo every 10 -12 weeks. Deload as needed. Also every one in a while if i feel burntout ill take 2 weeks off so i can come back strong.
 
Im of the belief that everything should be cycled.

So, not just the gear, but the calories, the macros, the training volume, etc. Some call this "priming". If anyone is familiar with Mike Israetels training principles they will know what Im getting at in that respect.
 
Nac said:
Im of the belief that everything should be cycled.

So, not just the gear, but the calories, the macros, the training volume, etc. Some call this "priming". If anyone is familiar with Mike Israetels training principles they will know what Im getting at in that respect.
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love mike... such a brainy guy but really down to earth and downright hilarious, too. I really enjoy the videos of him going back and forth with my coach, menno. they're both on the same level intellectually but carry themselves in completely different ways. It's really amusing to me seeing how different their personalities are.
 
At whiskey and Mat..

I'm a pretty reclusive guy and I don't like to openly speak about my personal life too much, this is something I haven't shared openly with my fellow peers in the communities, although I have referenced it on a few occasions.

To the both of you, good for you as you both deserve to live happy and full lives.
I am also in recovery, I always will be. I have several years.
Alcohol was my vice. I often hear "you don't look like an alcoholic for act like one". Some people do not have a keen understanding of the battles within and the demons that we continuously smash. What does an addict look like?!?🤷

Now I may not be able to offer any of you fellas a ride to a meeting or go out for a cup of coffee, however my private messaging is open 24/7. There's a lifeline there if you need it so please do not hesitate.
 
Renew1 said:
When I first got serious about working out many moons ago, nobody that I personally knew worked harder, or was more dedicated than myself (seriously).

But what I came to realize, was that I wasn't giving enough recovery time or sleep time. And I knew very little about Cortisol control at the time. So I walked around VERY sore much of the time, and left Soo many gains on the table.

Everybody that looked at me was envious of my physic, but they had no idea how much I was missing out on.

By looking at others' past shortcomings, we can sometimes avoid those pitfalls ourselves.
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I can relate. I learned to just dial things back and if I don't feel that day to still show up and just go through the motions.
Sometimes just showing up has turned out to be some of my best sessions.
If I don't have that rep, it's OK, I'll make it up on the next one.

Learning how to adopt and pick up on "instructive training" takes years and lots of failures.

Instinctive training and knowing how to allow ourselves a chance to listen to our bodies will end up being the biggest game change ever for everyone. I don't listen to predetermined digits anymore, some days I'm up 5-8lbs on my lifts and other days I may be down, it doesn't matter though because what matters is where am I during those sets. I can make any weight feel heavy if I use muscle to mind connection and just get into a zone. All the while still making progress.
 
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