Icon solutions best for me

[AndShane]

Not wanting a huge bulk. Like to shred some and gain minimal strength. Add some lean mass. However I don’t want the estrogen sides or have to deal with it. Not wanting a lot of bloat or water retention. What’s the best supplement along with best pct for product?

 

[LeanEngineer]

Are you just looking at iconic solutions or open to other brands? If you're looking for a lean cut True Shred by Hard Rock Supplements would definitely be one to check out. A lot of positives reviews behind it. Thermoamp is on discount right now at strong supplement shop as well (https://anabolicminds.com/community/threads/strong-supplements-locker-room-talk.299089/post-6487668)

 

[AndShane]

Like to avoid pills is why

 

[thebigt]

Like to avoid pills is why

none of the black series andros will give estrogen sides...for a cut my suggestion would be alpha seven and neuro AET.

 

[hyperCat]

none of the black series andros will give estrogen sides...for a cut my suggestion would be alpha seven and neuro AET.

I second this opinion. Alpha seven is good stuff.

 

[ANABOLICWRWLF]

What about Iron Legion XI-KT?

 

[thebigt]

What about Iron Legion XI-KT?

would stack great with alpha seven.

 

[AndShane]

Best pct with alpha seven?

 

[wfreiling]

Whichever serm you prefer...nolva, clomid, torem

 

[thebigt]

sustain alpha

 

[cheftepesh1]

Best pct with alpha seven?

Sustain is good. Plus with code chef you can get 20% off either site.

 

[Afi140]

Serm and sustain alpha. Definitely recommend the 7/11 stack from iconic. Fat will melt away.

 

[KvanH]

If you want to achieve all those things that you mention simultaneously, then depending on your experience level on lifting, I don't think anything less stronger than Icon One will cut it. Shedding fat and gaining lean mass at the same time is a hard thing to do. They are polar opposite actions for the body to produce. I would personally go with Icon 1 and add any of the other black series products or the Iron Legion XI-KT to it to either enhance fat loss or to help adding strenght and lean mass. If thinking you need more assistance with the fat loss, then XI-KT would be my choice to add. If thinking adding strenght or lean mass would need more assistance, then I would add Ultra Hard or Alpha Four. Alpha 7 would be a nice middle road decision, since the Androsterone would help with strenght and hardness and 7-Keto with the fat loss.

Here's a good summary by IF's Chef

 

[AndShane]

Do they all avoid estrogen sides ?

 

[thebigt]

Do they all avoid estrogen sides ?

the only one you could have even minimul estrogen from is alpha four since it converts to test, but the 1gm of androsterone included should have estrogen covered....if you are bulking some estrogen is a good thing.

when you see the term 'TEST BASE' it virtually means something that will have some conversion to estrogen.