I personally love epistane. Although the liver toxicity is rough when it comes to lethargy, its not even close to as bad as others such as superdrol clones! Epistane keeps me hard and vascular, great strength, slow but steady muscle gains! I did however dose it higher than most.... I did:
wk 1-30mg a day
wk 2-40mg a day
wk 3-4 50 mg a day
wk 5 60 mg a day