I skipped pct

[Quentinbrown1]

I’m 59 years old and skipped pct after a 4 month cycle. It’s been 5 months erections are weak most of the time compared to a year ago occasionally i get really hard, with or without cialis or viagara, occasional sexual thoughts. I climax way to soon when I do have sex. I’ve used every ai there is they say sex binding hormone maybe. Any one have any suggestions , I’ve read it’s too late for pct, I can take another blood test in 2 weeks. I’ve attached last labs

 

[Smont]

You can still run pct now, Get some hcg, enclomphine and cailis. It looks like free testosterone is low and estrogen might be a little low as well. Your reference ranges are a lot different then I normally see. Your total test is ok, but 500 also isint high. That range of 190 to 740 is low in itself. Hcg I think is going to be the biggest help

 

[CroLifter]

Also its very hard to say where are you at because you dont have pre cycle bloodwork.

For all you know, you may have returned to your baseline. Or you may have not.


I would definitely skip hcg at this point as thats usually used during cycle to preserve testicular function or to wake the testes up before pct. Hcg shuts you down, so why shut yourself down again if your hpta is running right now?

So skip the hcg, and also do yourself a favor, and get some enclomiphene instead of clomid, unless you want to rage constantly for no reason or be depressed every other day.

It is the worst single drug I have taken, ever, and generally I find SERMS to be fairly unpleasant. Even enclomiphene has its sides. Dry joints, dry eyes, low libido, longer term bone loss, basically low estrogen sides.


Tldr; skip the hcg, run some enclomiphene if you really feel the need for a pct at this point, but if you can manage without taking SERMs, the better. Its not like ypu are shut down, your T is mid range. Free is low but you are almost 60 and again, no pre cycle bloods.

Tbh in your position i would just focus on good nutrition that supports T production and if you feel the need for a little more, grab an otc test booster. There are better ones, you can look it up i wont go into details, but again, whenever you can avoid a serm, I would do so.

 

[Smont]

Also its very hard to say where are you at because you dont have pre cycle bloodwork.

For all you know, you may have returned to your baseline. Or you may have not.


I would definitely skip hcg at this point as thats usually used during cycle to preserve testicular function or to wake the testes up before pct. Hcg shuts you down, so why shut yourself down again if your hpta is running right now?

So skip the hcg, and also do yourself a favor, and get some enclomiphene instead of clomid, unless you want to rage constantly for no reason or be depressed every other day.

It is the worst single drug I have taken, ever, and generally I find SERMS to be fairly unpleasant. Even enclomiphene has its sides. Dry joints, dry eyes, low libido, longer term bone loss, basically low estrogen sides.


Tldr; skip the hcg, run some enclomiphene if you really feel the need for a pct at this point, but if you can manage without taking SERMs, the better. Its not like ypu are shut down, your T is mid range. Free is low but you are almost 60 and again, no pre cycle bloods.

Tbh in your position i would just focus on good nutrition that supports T production and if you feel the need for a little more, grab an otc test booster. There are better ones, you can look it up i wont go into details, but again, whenever you can avoid a serm, I would do so.

The HCG will fix the problem with the low free testosterone, and low estrogen fairly quickly, I would highly recommend using it. It will probably lower fsh but The enclomphine will raise the fsh and fix that.

Also if there's any issues with low dhea, the hcg tends to fix that faster then anything else. You don't need a lot either, like 500iu EOD for 2 weeks

 

[CroLifter]

The HCG will fix the problem with the low free testosterone, and low estrogen fairly quickly, I would highly recommend using it. It will probably lower fsh but The enclomphine will raise the fsh and fix that.

Also if there's any issues with low dhea, the hcg tends to fix that faster then anything else. You don't need a lot either, like 500iu EOD for 2 weeks

I am just worried that hcg will shut him down again when his hpta is now working.
Sure its going to "fix" lowish testosterone if his testes have the capacity to produce more, but its a temporary fix only while he is taking it. And once he stops hcg his hpta has to start up all over.

His axis is already firing, not optimally, but again, at 59 and without pre cycle bloods, its hard to evaluate. Thats 500 ng/dl total T.