rtmilburn
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Cycling isnt an issue of you know what you are doing, you cam easily still have kids. Just lots of ****ing clomid and your good to go
I know some of you have had this problem
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The Express 42
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You deserve to have the story published in chicken noodle soup for the soul or something haha hoping I have a similar scenario. I love my girl, she's the one so I have enough respect to keep it honest with her I just hope she gives in sooner than later lol I can hold off another year or two but its only going to get harder. Honestly I think it is just a matter of time Ill get her to come around, the gains are just too addicting haha
fueledpassion
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I set the precedence early on that honesty was the norm. My wife (at te time was my girlfriend) saw that I was a responsible man who knew what I was doing. I think if you have good credibility with your wife and she respects you and trusts your judgment, you won't have any issues when you decide to be honest about it.
If she doesn't agree and makes a deal out of it, ask her why? Demand an explanation other than the media hype that she likely heard for years on end. Help her see the inconsistency and hypocrisy in being anti- PED's.
It helps when you can poke holes in someone's thought process in a respectful manner. They may still by wary of the idea but at least they may become open-minded about it.
If she doesn't agree and makes a deal out of it, ask her why? Demand an explanation other than the media hype that she likely heard for years on end. Help her see the inconsistency and hypocrisy in being anti- PED's.
It helps when you can poke holes in someone's thought process in a respectful manner. They may still by wary of the idea but at least they may become open-minded about it.
fueledpassion
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When you bring her into the world of bb'ing and she sees a bunch of respectable people doing it, she'll realize that AAS doesn't ruin everyone's life like she was taught to believe. Before you know it, she'll be asking about Anavar and pro-hormones, lol.
Trust me - when a girl decides you are her leader, she'll loyally follow you straight to hell if you insist. So treat the role with high regard and respect.
Trust me - when a girl decides you are her leader, she'll loyally follow you straight to hell if you insist. So treat the role with high regard and respect.
Willtolift
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Well... What I did was... Told her I was feeling ****ty, (which I was thanks to PH and AAS use a decade ago, a months worth of Prednisone last year, and then a few days of 1-Andro & 4-Andro really did the trick)... I went to a TRT clinic and I brought her along for my consult. I explained my symptoms infront of her, and then I got blood work done... Low and behold I was suffering from low testosterone. So now I have Dr. supervised TRT 200mgs a week, and if I want to blast she doesn't notice because I don't inject in front of her.
sespress
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So did you partially engineer the situation? You say a few days of the andro's...I'm confused.
I ask because my understanding is that if you run some PH cycles (under 8 weeks) and PCT well, take breaks well, that won't really happen to you. I've actually wondered if one could engineer the situation for the doc's benefit (and your benefit), and in your case the wifey's benefit. I imagine running andro for a few days at a high dose might supress, but...
Willtolift
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I actually intended on running the Andros for a cycle but had some pretty bad sides that were symptomatic of estrogen conversion. So it wasn't intentional, but it worked out well for me.
Alpha1a
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Lmao don't worry bro if she's the one and lifting is a huge part of your life (which I'm sure it is) then she'll change her mind eventually all it is is a couple more years being half natty lol
ChocolateClen
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Or you just drop an ultimatum and hope for the best
habajaba
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I have to agree with some of the other guys in here. Lies will always catch up to you. Trust is critical in a relationship. If you lie, it'll catch up to you, kill that trust and damage or destroy your relationship. Worth it? Doubtful.
For me, I'm married, and according to my Christian beliefs, my body is my wife's. So for me, I really need to tell her what I'm putting in this body and have her agreement.
As others have said, after time and discussion, you'll both come to some agreement. If steroids can cause a breakup or divorce, either because you insist, or she demands, then that kind of shows the overall strength of the relationship.
Juicing isn't that important...
For me, I'm married, and according to my Christian beliefs, my body is my wife's. So for me, I really need to tell her what I'm putting in this body and have her agreement.
As others have said, after time and discussion, you'll both come to some agreement. If steroids can cause a breakup or divorce, either because you insist, or she demands, then that kind of shows the overall strength of the relationship.
Juicing isn't that important...
kn78
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I didn't tell my wife, then one day a package showed up at the house with my Nolva in it and it started a big fight because she said I couldnt have it. I said your doing more harm then good, she said she googled it and didnt know why I would need it. And I didnt need to be taking that stuff. Obviously she didnt read to far into it. In the end she just turned a blind eye.
Every time something happens though headache etc., she'll throw a jab saying its probably all of that stuff your taking.
Every time something happens though headache etc., she'll throw a jab saying its probably all of that stuff your taking.
Brandaddy
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I just told my girlfriend that steroids are a government conspiracy fabricated in order to make sure the citizens don't get big and strong so they can take over easier.
That was actually a lie. Luckily for myself, I'm a felon convicted of numerous violent crimes. Any woman that would be willing to be in a long term relationship with me probably won't care to much about p.e.d's. Lol
That was actually a lie. Luckily for myself, I'm a felon convicted of numerous violent crimes. Any woman that would be willing to be in a long term relationship with me probably won't care to much about p.e.d's. Lol
mmorso
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Lol. My wife was mildly annoyed when I told her I was running LGD and some ph's (I explained what SARMS are, etc).. mainly she was pissed by how much I was spending on sups.. and that my hair is thinning and it's annoying to clean up after.
She's pregnant at the moment and is starting to give me sh1t saying I'm more hormonal than she is and is joking around about it.. I've had great results from this cycle I'm on and I think she's becoming more open minded about it, since I look and feel much better..
I made mention of taking steroids a couple days ago and she said "don't tell me that sh1t." I think that was a green light to do my thing..
fueledpassion
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While that is probably not a true conspiracy, I do believe creating super soldiers was the original intent behind testosterone research and development, at least that's the hearsay that Germany was up to around WWII.
Who knows. But had steroids become mainstream like caffein, creatine and alcohol, the society would definitely have been much harder to manage in terms of law enforcement and taking away second amendment rights, lol. Call it silly but it's true. This country is becoming more neutered by the day.
Who knows. But had steroids become mainstream like caffein, creatine and alcohol, the society would definitely have been much harder to manage in terms of law enforcement and taking away second amendment rights, lol. Call it silly but it's true. This country is becoming more neutered by the day.
mmorso
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Agreed brother!! I'm 35 and when I was a kid it was no big deal to get in a fist fight at recess in junior high.. it was kinda like "knock it off boys..." or "hey shake hands..."
Now they call the cops on kids for fighting in school... Now kids shoot up schools. Now kids are such p@ssies that they bully on Facebook and the bullied kids are such p@ssies that they go and kill themselves...
Now gender is a fcking option. Hunting is frowned upon. Guys like us who lift and juice are "meatheads" and douche bags..
I honestly think there is a cultural war on masculinity. No joke.
yates84
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Seems like all the ex cons are on this forum lmao
saywutrly
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I fully agree with you. We are dying at the hands of feminists and these pussies who think that "violence isn't the answer." It's been the answer for a lot longer than humans have been around.
LOL we gotta have somewhere to hang out. I'm also a felon.
fueledpassion
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Actually, there is. It's one of the key goals of Marxism - to eradicate the roles in the family so that the State can take over a majority of those duties normally given to the mother and father or husband and wife. Feminism came around to help usher the idea of "gender equality" which really equated to blurring the lines between men and women. In doing so, it causes a breakdown in the family, which can be seen in the statistics of single mothers, divorce rates and dysfunctional families along with the sharp increase in LGBTQ activity.
So yes, there are forces (mainly the progressive party and media bias) that are trying to eradicate people like us (aka meatheads that can think for ourselves and honor the roles of men and women)
Randallk21
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I started with TRT so it was purely medical so to speak which made it A-OK considering our societies mindset lol (does pills without a script has a problem, does pills with script it's obviously necessary to their daily life and helps them) so I got really lucky. Anything after TRT I just didn't speak of. Sh*t tell her you came back with low test and that your doc put you on it and it makes you feel like a new man.
rascal14
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What? I've never received anything when being prescribed a controlled substance. I just get my script with the little pamphlet attached to the bag and it all goes in the trash anyways.
saywutrly
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Holy **** at my doctor I got this big folder with all kinds of stuff in it. It felt like a lot of dead trees.
All technicalities aside, she could still ask for the script. Just saying. I don't believe in lying in the relationship so I'm not going to support it. It will save a bunch of headache.
DUbz86
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Its a double edge sword damned if you do damned if you dont
saywutrly
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If you are already in the relationship before you decide to, yes sir. You're totally right. If she didn't accept you with the steroids as a clause at that time, it's basically on her to say if she wants to stay with you if you make that change. That makes it super tricky when trying to bring it in after awhile. The longer you've been together gear free the harder it will probably be.
That's why I'm happy I started gear when I was single. Then, never let it go past a first date without getting it all on the table. I'm a broke ass felon, I smoke grass, I'm in constant custody battles with my kids mom, gym is life, I use performance enhancing substances, all the **** that causes that awkward silence when they find out two months down the road.
I stuck to my guns and now I have a fit, down-ass woman who both tokes and hits the gym, and is cool with my gear use and long, grueling gym sessions as she sees it as a part of me because if you don't lie about it then you're owning it. There were a number of dead ends, but this was worth the work. If I had to do it over, I wouldn't do it any other way except I would have adopted this mindset earlier on.
DUbz86
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Right on man!!!
rascal14
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Yeah that wasn't even my point, I just thought it was weird you got so many papers! Lol
Gutterpump
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I'm on TRT so that's always been easy. I always have vials and pins around. I recently had to convince my last gf that I was going to do a tren cycle and that it'd be fine though lol... and she ended up being fine with it when she understood that I knew what I'm doing. She enjoyed the results too, so...
saywutrly
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Mine wasn't for AAS I guess I just figured all controlled stuff was the same. Mine was for schedule 4 which is actually lower than AAS.
But yeah, my AAS doctors are much, much more flexible haha.
DUbz86
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haha
ChocolateClen
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Drag her along then, I did that a few times and my ex started feeling a lot better over all. Unforunently I hit her with the post I stated way at the beginning of the thread and she left meh.
Brandaddy
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I have drug her with me a few times. She got really sore and stopped going right away. Lol.Drag her along then, I did that a few times and my ex started feeling a lot better over all. Unforunently I hit her with the post I stated way at the beginning of the thread and she left meh.
ChocolateClen
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Lol you can't drag them in and have them do your workout, that's like throwing a 2 year old in the deep end of the pool and telling them to touch the bottom and come back up. They'll always touch the bottom, but never come back up. Same with brining your girl to the gym, she will go but she won't come back again.
kn78
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I got a personal trainer for mine once, only once. She didnt have a clue what to do. She'd never stepped foot inside a gym so I figured it would be easier. The personal trainer ran her into the ground the first week. Her whole body was sore for a week after that.
She was so sore she never went back. I was laughing on the inside, kinda.
She was so sore she never went back. I was laughing on the inside, kinda.
Hyde
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Ahh, the mark of truly clueless newb "personal trainer". Since you don't know anything about effective training progression, just make em sore AF and they'll believe they got their money's worth. *smh*
ChocolateClen
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This is how people end up in the hospital with a serious condition called Rhabdo. Not to mention retention rates are god awful if you do that to people, funny right?
saywutrly
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That's ridiculous. Yeah, you have to start them off right. Sometimes, you have to do only stability and body weight work as they build a strength base. I think that folks also forget how low of weight they need to put newbies on in addition to lower volume when you do reach the point that they can start traditional weight training.
Not everyone is like us and gets off on the pain and knowing we pushed ourselves to the limit. Typically, clients will pull that direction if they want to go there, you don't need to push them. Steady progress is better than no progress which is what someone makes when you scare them away from the gym.
Not everyone is like us and gets off on the pain and knowing we pushed ourselves to the limit. Typically, clients will pull that direction if they want to go there, you don't need to push them. Steady progress is better than no progress which is what someone makes when you scare them away from the gym.
ChocolateClen
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Not to mention the hospital bills that they will get if they have rhabdo. Its roughly 10k a night and they can be there from 1-5 nights depending on how bad it is. If they have to go on dialysis cause their kidneys are shut down or close to it, you're talking big $$$ there.
saywutrly
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That's very true. IIRC some goofball kid who posted here for awhile went nutso running a methyl stack for way too long and trained so hard that he gave himself rabdo. Everyone including me was like "bro you ****ed yourself up from the gear!" He went to the doctor and found out that it was actually rabdo.
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YoungBodyBuil
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**** is NO joke, if i drink less than a gallon of water on cycle I FLIP. I take diuretics on cycle just to help my kidneys a bit too
saywutrly
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No joke, brother. I don't do diuretics but I average 1.5-2 gallons a day on cycle and at least 1-1.5 off. If my piss isn't nearly clear for any reason other than my B vitamins I immediately start hitting the water harder.
YoungBodyBuil
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I only take like soft core diuretics like caffeine and dandelion root, just to help out a bit.. and yeah man i even stop taking B vitamins on cycle just to really monitor idc how it sounds its NECESSARY on methyls. It's so easy to cycle safely and get results you literally have to not care to get fcked up on cycle.
ChocolateClen
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lol I remember reading that cause I just ran a pretty similar stack so I was trying to find a lot of info on it. Felt bad for the kid cause everyone thought it was the gear but nah his body just noped the **** out lol
ChocolateClen
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I can get away with less than a gallon of water a day for a day or two but I feel so god damn ****ty it's unbelievable
saywutrly
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I suppose you should be eating enough meat and eggs and everything on cycle, but I just couldn't ever cut it that close.
Yeah, I also felt bad for him. Didn't his friend basically tell him it was a good stack and not give him any cycle support or some ****? It's a sad story of the industry. I'm sure that everything else didn't help the onset of th rabdo.
Word. I even get more stiff and sore and recover more slowly.
ChocolateClen
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I'm not sure about the friend thing I'd have to go back and read it. I don't even think he was too far in the cycle when that stuff happened but it's been a while since I've read it, I could be wrong.
My joints make me feel like a 100 year old man if I don't drink enough. There's a reason why I have a glass of water next to me bed lol cause I roll the hell over and drink it so I can actually get up and walk later.
YoungBodyBuil
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On a gallon a day on cycle i wake up with MAJOR dry mouth.
ChocolateClen
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Oh yeah I feel you, I can't drink less than 1.5 gal a day but I've tried drinking less to see what it was like and it was ****ing awful. I had to physically force myself not to drink just cause I wanted to know what it felt like for a day and I'll never do that again.