I finally planned my first cycle.

MuscleGuyinNY

MuscleGuyinNY

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I should be starting within the next few weeks. I'll begin logging once I get everything that I need.

I'm still a little undecided between Epistane/EpiDrol (I realize that they're the same compounds) and H-Drol, but I believe that I might go with Epistane.

I've heard of people running this several different ways, such as 20/30/30/40 and 20/30/40/40.

I have a pretty good line-up of support supplements and PCT, including Nolvadex (Tamoxifen.)

Anyone have any final suggestions or success stories to share?

I'm getting quite anxious for this.
 
For your first cycle you should be fine going 20/30/30/40 i ran a pulse of just 30mg 3 times a week for 5 weeks (1st week 10/20/30) and i had great strength gains, and im up 6 pounds into my pct, and still gaining.
 
I've heard of some ridiculous gains while on Epistane, or EpiDrol. I'm getting so anxious.

I'd like to occasionally take a fat burner, or ECA stack of some sort, while running this cycle. Just to help boost my ability to burn some body fat.

When should I start taking my post cycle therapy supplements, including the Nolvadex? When should I take the Nolvadex, how much, and how often?

After the cycle, and before the next one, I'm just gonna run some support supplements and some BSN products. That's until I'm all clear for my next cycle, whatever that may be.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
I've heard of some ridiculous gains while on Epistane, or EpiDrol. I'm getting so anxious.

I'd like to occasionally take a fat burner, or ECA stack of some sort, while running this cycle. Just to help boost my ability to burn some body fat.

When should I start taking my post cycle therapy supplements, including the Nolvadex? When should I take the Nolvadex, how much, and how often?

After the cycle, and before the next one, I'm just gonna run some support supplements and some BSN products. That's until I'm all clear for my next cycle, whatever that may be.
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I'm biased, but I would stack Anabolic Pump with any designer cycle. Shoving glucose into muscle cells while in an anabolic state leads to a super anabolic state.
 
USPLabs said:
I'm biased, but I would stack Anabolic Pump with any designer cycle. Shoving glucose into muscle cells while in an anabolic state leads to a super anabolic state.
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Whatever will make the cycle an even more pleasant one. I guess I could give it a shot, stacking the two. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
I've heard of some ridiculous gains while on Epistane, or EpiDrol. I'm getting so anxious.

I'd like to occasionally take a fat burner, or ECA stack of some sort, while running this cycle. Just to help boost my ability to burn some body fat.

When should I start taking my post cycle therapy supplements, including the Nolvadex? When should I take the Nolvadex, how much, and how often?

After the cycle, and before the next one, I'm just gonna run some support supplements and some BSN products. That's until I'm all clear for my next cycle, whatever that may be.
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sorry to say this, but it sounds like your not ready to cycle.. you should know when and how to take the nolva, and i wouldn't take a ECA stack during your first cycle, steroids can raise BP, and epi will hurt your lipids, combine that with a ECA stack.. just asking for problems. Save your cutting supps for cutting, and bulking for bulking, you cant do both, if you wanna recomp while on cycle, read into it, but epi is dry and should be a good cutting supp anyway, just all depends on what you want to do, and i think the pros run clen on cycle, but i wouldn't do that for your first one.
 
drksun said:
sorry to say this, but it sounds like your not ready to cycle.. you should know when and how to take the nolva, and i wouldn't take a ECA stack during your first cycle, steroids can raise BP, and epi will hurt your lipids, combine that with a ECA stack.. just asking for problems. Save your cutting supps for cutting, and bulking for bulking, you cant do both, if you wanna recomp while on cycle, read into it, but epi is dry and should be a good cutting supp anyway, just all depends on what you want to do, and i think the pros run clen on cycle, but i wouldn't do that for your first one.
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I've done plenty of research on Epistane. I was asking you personally, since you've run it before. Sorry for not being specific enough.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
I've done plenty of research on Epistane. I was asking you personally, since you've run it before. Sorry for not being specific enough.
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i ran a pulse, and followed the pct outlined in DrD's pulse thread, its transdermal formastane + an anti cortisol (dhea 25mg on cylcle and 100mg BID 7keto-dhea during pct)

but for a straight cycle of epi you should use a SERM, read up in the PCT form to get the right dosage and math for what your using.
 
i used epidrol, i liked it but it seemed really weak. Its a great first cycle steroid imo. Start out at 10mg for 2 days then 20mg for 3 days then go to 30mg and see how that goes. Personally 40mg is the bare minimum i would go to see anabolic effects. Strength is great with it and you get some crazy libido for the first 3 weeks, at least from my experience.
 
i ran eca with my epi pulse and my bp was fine. i did 200mg caffiene, 1 asprin, 25mg ephedrine about 45 minutes prior to my workout 4x a week
 
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