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I CANNOT get my shoulders sore

I personally think that people commonly over train when it comes to shoulders! Think about the size of your delts in comparission to say your back or your legs! I bet most people do just as many if not more exercises for delts as for the other body parts!

Looking at your shoulder routine, I personally feel that you might be doing too much!! Beasting the hell out of your shoulders (or any other body part for that matter), unless your on the juice, will not make them bigger! People with smaller pecs also make this exact same mistake when working chest!

Don't forget that the lateral delt is a relatively small muscle and is bought into use during other bigger moves....talking about isolating it so much is fairly pointless! Personally I would remove all the decending weight work as it ends up being too much and I would never recommend behind neck pressing on the smith either....not a natural movement for your shoulder at all! Stick to the heavy compound moves your doing...arnold or dumbell shoulder press (always standing), clean and press....face pulls, heavy deadlift and heavy bench are also going help shoulder growth!

I was the same in the beginning, but now-a-days I do a maximum of 2 compound shoulder moves a week and my delts are the biggest they have ever been!
 
Fever said:
I personally think that people commonly over train when it comes to shoulders! Think about the size of your delts in comparission to say your back or your legs! I bet most people do just as many if not more exercises for delts as for the other body parts!

Looking at your shoulder routine, I personally feel that you might be doing too much!! Beasting the hell out of your shoulders (or any other body part for that matter), unless your on the juice, will not make them bigger! People with smaller pecs also make this exact same mistake when working chest!

Don't forget that the lateral delt is a relatively small muscle and is bought into use during other bigger moves....talking about isolating it so much is fairly pointless! Personally I would remove all the decending weight work as it ends up being too much and I would never recommend behind neck pressing on the smith either....not a natural movement for your shoulder at all! Stick to the heavy compound moves your doing...arnold or dumbell shoulder press (always standing), clean and press....face pulls, heavy deadlift and heavy bench are also going help shoulder growth!

I was the same in the beginning, but now-a-days I do a maximum of 2 compound shoulder moves a week and my delts are the biggest they have ever been!
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fevers ga...actually i dont want a repeat :rofl:
 
I like the Hang Clean and Push Press.


This is a 'split' push press, but it works.


 
Problem solved guys.

Lateral deltoids are coming along slowly but surely, and showing more definition.

I attribute this primarily to facepulls on a row bench, leaned back slightly to activate lateral heads. And secondly, I attribute this to starting some olympic lifts. These include the basic clean, the clean to push-press, and the one-armed dumbbell snatch.
 
goslamacamel said:
Problem solved guys.

Lateral deltoids are coming along slowly but surely, and showing more definition.

I attribute this primarily to facepulls on a row bench, leaned back slightly to activate lateral heads. And secondly, I attribute this to starting some olympic lifts. These include the basic clean, the clean to push-press, and the one-armed dumbbell snatch.
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There you go man...good work...keep it up!!



P.S. Harlan kisses boys!
 
seems too high volume unless you're a bodybuilder on some gear. i'd lower it to two exercises. that's just me, but hey, i'm not that great at this workout stuff right now.
 
goslamacamel said:
Problem solved guys.

Lateral deltoids are coming along slowly but surely, and showing more definition.

I attribute this primarily to facepulls on a row bench, leaned back slightly to activate lateral heads. And secondly, I attribute this to starting some olympic lifts. These include the basic clean, the clean to push-press, and the one-armed dumbbell snatch.
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I have been doing a modified Bill Starr 5x5 for 5 weeks now that uses the overhead press and I have seen a lot of improvement in my shoulders. Each rep I take the weight from a hang clean to the press.
 
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