I have started taking 3 grams of Arginine 3 times daily with a high carb drink. I will let you know what, if any, results I garner from this.
WW7
WW7
So YJ, am I right to assume that there is no benefit to doing Arg. like this? The NO2 exposed thread sparked my interest. Is it a waste in you opinion?Originally posted by YellowJacket
MRI has an "exclusive" pHyser3 delivery system....all this is comprised of cacium phosphate, cellulose ethers and magnesium steartate Ive read, not to mention the Arginine.
All this translates to another pissing in the wind product
Originally posted by jweave23
hope it works for you bro, good luck!!
Free is good!Originally posted by windwords7
It might be but I was given the arginine for free so.....
If you can, try to take more than that....I have started taking 3 grams of Arginine 3 times daily with a high carb drink. I will let you know what, if any, results I garner from this.
WW7
well...last i heard from that thread Icex999 was working on a new formulation for the homebrew...i agree
the general consensus on the big thread over at bb.com was 12g or so a day spread out in 3 doses...
i'm really thinking hard about trying it; i just dunno if it'll work
i trust ww7 tho; never heard of that icex99 guy even tho he may mean well
I'm just curious as to why he'd patent a delivery system that is purely fillers, which is used in most $2 grocery store vitamins.You wont get the same effect from the homemade version than the real N02, im not going to go into it and cause a huge argument, because we are all entitled to our own opinions. But ive had 2 meetings with Ed Byrd himself, ive asked him a lot of questions that any normal guy trying to clown his product would, and he came back with some very good and very well thought answers. My opinion on N02 ?...it works, theres no doubt about it, anyone that say it does nothing at all, obviosly hasnt tried it, BUT...for the price, i think its not worth the money. He also has a patend on the Physer system, which he explained to me how he researched. There is a lot more to it than just readin the free book he gives you, like i said, ive met him face to face twice and got to ask my fiar share of questions that im sure hes been asked 100 times, so im getting information a little more forward, hes a good guy, and i think N02 has a future, once the price gets lowered a considerable amount, it wont be as bad, but if you heard of the price it was first going to be before he released it, you would freak. With all new products, theres a lot of people out there that will automaticly clown them right off the bat, and there are those people that will clown products that they have never tried, just because someone else doesnt like it, i say if you havnt tried it yourself, then you really dont know what your talking about. Anyways, not trying to start a argument, thought id drop my 2 cents.
As the one who came up with the homebrew (i'm Icex999 over a bb.com for those who don't know yet), i just wanted to say a few things....Hey Wind,
Any report for us on how the arginine is working out for you?
Thanks in advance,
Doesn't CHUCK DIESEL pimp some glutamine nonsense? I know he suggested peopple take glutamine instead of protein. Don't know how much stock I would put in his products.
Personally, I'm waiting until Chuck Diesel releases his NOS Precursor formula (available at getnos.com). I've been talking to him about it, and I was able to convince him to send me a free bottle once production is complete. Once I get it, I'll run a cycle and let you guys know how it goes.
Peace,
~Sheesh
Doesn't CHUCK DIESEL pimp some glutamine nonsense? I know he suggested peopple take glutamine instead of protein. Don't know how much stock I would put in his products.
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1609
icex, do you see any kind of undesirable side effects with these no2 products, any types of toxicity? ive heard of some people questioning the product from safety perspective.
You must be thinking of the wrong guy. Either way, it's a free bottle....
Doesn't CHUCK DIESEL pimp some glutamine nonsense? I know he suggested peopple take glutamine instead of protein. Don't know how much stock I would put in his products.
I would agree with that statement to an extent. To those who haven't been following the debate at the Avant board, I'll bring you up to speed.
http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1609
The evidence really isn't substansial.
Yes, Chucky did say that in a recent bb.com thread.
You must be thinking of the wrong guy. Either way, it's a free bottle....
Has he released the formula yet?
I doubt there could be much harm in taking his product if you get it for free, it's got a bunch of good stuff in there... at miniscule doses.
David
Nevermind....
Has he released the formula yet?
Yup. Stuff doesn't ship out til the 27th though, so it'll be a while til either of us get it....be sure to post your results here, as I will...Ice,
I just ordered some of Chuck's NOS yesterday and I too am anxiously awaiting it's arrival. When I bought regular NO2, it worked nice for me so I'm hoping Chuck's product will be even better. I guess we'll find out...
Dave, i'm just curious as to if you've read some of those new studies on weight training with occlusion coming out of Japan. I can dig them up if you'd like. I'd actually say that they support the claims that increased Nitric Oxide leads to muscle growth (significant growth actually, if you read the studies).First of all, the evidence might not be "substantial" as of yet according to some but none can deny that it is significant, seeing as evidence showing NO2 to cause muscle gain is insignificant.
I'd be very interested in seeing them, seeing as
Dave, i'm just curious as to if you've read some of those new studies on weight training with occlusion coming out of Japan. I can dig them up if you'd like. I'd actually say that they support the claims that increased Nitric Oxide leads to muscle growth (significant growth actually, if you read the studies).
The NO precursor ingredients may be of use. At least it doesn't contain AAKG, which is my main beef. But the OKG combined with arg. -may- exhibit the same effect. Either way it's a safer bet. From the limited research I've done on OKG there's evidence to go both ways.
Yup. Stuff doesn't ship out til the 27th though, so it'll be a while til either of us get it....be sure to post your results here, as I will...
Alot of the ingredients in NOS precursor are the same as the ones in DFR, but I don't mind because I actually got noticeably increased pumps from DFR, even on non-workout days (maybe from gymnostemna?). With this product, as it has more Nitric Oxide stimulators, maybe it'll actually meet its claims of a huge perpetual pump, etc. I guess we'll have to just wait it out and see...
I'm honored that you would spend that much time going through my thread over at bodybuilding.com.....It seems to me the that "The jury is still out" on all of the NO2 homebrews and others. Some in icex999's thread saw results some didn't. (I spent nearly 4 hours reading 23 pagtes last night)
Personally, I am really curious to know about what people think of the quality of:
Nitro-AKG
&
NOS Precursor
Like everyone else price is a major consideration to me. However, RESULTS are the most important.
My major concern based on the opions of others that I've read both here and on BB.com has been that this product gives you a great perpetual pump. However, there lack of information that it ADDS muscle. I do not want to put extra time and money into a product that makes me look like I just left the gym. I wanna GROW and do the other on my on!
Keep me posted guys! Peace
MB - The Celtic Conqueror