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Hulk kills E with Virtus by iron legion

Very interesting. I feel so crazy. I've run exemstane and arimadex its definitely a similar feeling . That alpha male explosion is really strong .
 
Pec.Major said:
No libido issues? Generally speaking AI tends to make the libido drop, if I am correct?
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It does you are correct but it only does if your estrogen is within the normal range I had four to five times the estrogen all the normal men in four to five times the amount of testosterone in a normal man for my age.

With that being said once e2 drops into the normal range and it drops my libido that's when I'll know that my numbers have fallen below the normal range and I can back off on the heavy dosing....
 
Bengal said:
do you remember ( I doubt it lol) if you got any bloods on either of those??
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Hah i actually ****ed up the dosage on exemstane and ended up doing 3 pills a day . Thats how i got my e down to 31 in 2013 from 100 and something . But i lost my libido for 3 weeks . Nothing worked at all .
 
Much better today . Isolated myself yesterday to calm down . Today feeling great. Application 19. This stuff is beyond amazing. The biggest change I've noticed this far is the firming of my chest . Many things have changed but thats the most noticeable 1 to me. Midsection has thinned dramatically in the jist under 3 week period. I cant wait to see the papers on this
I have used traditional ai in many forms but never a TD . This has been awesome and I will definitely stock up on this for my new year's mayhem stack.
 
bighulksmash said:
Much better today . Isolated myself yesterday to calm down . Today feeling great. Application 19. This stuff is beyond amazing. The biggest change I've noticed this far is the firming of my chest . Many things have changed but thats the most noticeable 1 to me. Midsection has thinned dramatically in the jist under 3 week period. I cant wait to see the papers on this
I have used traditional ai in many forms but never a TD . This has been awesome and I will definitely stock up on this for my new year's mayhem stack.
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Man, I don't want be the slacker that doesn't read the entire log, but you've got a lot of posts in this one so hopefully you don't mind this.

1) If I'm correct, after Virtus your E is in normal ranges, while before, it was elevated greatly, right? (that's what I'm getting from your original post)
2) What BF% were you at beginning at this log? (estimated)
 
ma70 said:
Man, I don't want be the slacker that doesn't read the entire log, but you've got a lot of posts in this one so hopefully you don't mind this.

1) If I'm correct, after Virtus your E is in normal ranges, while before, it was elevated greatly, right? (that's what I'm getting from your original post)
2) What BF% were you at beginning at this log? (estimated)
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1) you're correct .
2) 35 %

I dropped quite a bit of fat in a short time.
Maybe a mix of water cortisol and bloat from previous cycles . Doing the trest oral at 200mgs a day set me back on the scale . I got huge but a good chunk was fat/water
. This time I'm doing it naturally, good clean food and lots of liss and hiit.
 
Have you found any specific optimal timing relative to working out for both? (btw- this is the first time I can remember that I'm more excited about pct than my actual cycle! Ordered 2 of each - all your fault! ;))
 
Tank999 said:
Have you found any specific optimal timing relative to working out for both? (btw- this is the first time I can remember that I'm more excited about pct than my actual cycle! Ordered 2 of each - all your fault! ;))
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Yes because I have 0 time restrictions I apply both between 10 and 11 am . Take my pwo by 1230 and hit the gym by 110 115 .
 
Tank999 said:
Have you found any specific optimal timing relative to working out for both? (btw- this is the first time I can remember that I'm more excited about pct than my actual cycle! Ordered 2 of each - all your fault! ;))
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You only bought 2 of each lol . I ordered 2 of each and plan to order 2 more of each.
 
I probably will do LJ100+follidrone2.0 and virtus as natty stack. Might throw in invictus. Should be intresting!
 
Tank999 said:
If this works even half as good for me, I'm building a stash!
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Disclaimer
I use Voice Text most of the time so if you don't like my run on sentences too bad. Because when I hit arms they tend to be really sore German volume training will kick your ****ing ass no matter who you are.
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Oh believe me bro this **** is gold in a bottle. I thought I had adrenal fatigue from going that whole year on prohormones and designer steroids. But I think that I just needed a break from all of those compounds to clear the receptors. Grab as much as you can because it's not going to be around forever I can't wait to see the numbers on paper I know for a fact that my E2 has dropped not sure how much but I could tell because like I said I've taken aromatase inhibitors before so I know how it comes on and what it does . If I had to guess I would probably say it's down from 189 down-to about 120 130 . If it runs down to a hundred then I'll run it for another 4 weeks but I still am going to get blood work after the first 4 weeks to validate this product. Somewhere I have a comprehensive write-up about the chemicals in this product and how they work to lower E2. Main observations tightening of skin all around body alpha male feeling wanting to have sex all day long constant erections at the wrong times of day. Magnetic attractions to any women who look like cheerleaders my wife doesn't like it too much but she knows I can control myself. Eating right sleeping right training hard is what matters here if one Lacks the whole pyramid will fall apart. I recommend 10 sets of 10 for any exercise that you can do doesn't matter if you can only lift a 20-pound dumbbell for 10 sets of 10. Next week you grab that 25 and do10 sets of 10 moving up 5 pounds per week doing each workout 2 times per week every muscle group gets hit two times per week. I write down all of my workouts and keep them for my own separate knowledge I do not like sharing my workouts I will on occasion if I'm asked by somebody who really needs help. but for the most part I believe in finding what works for you in doing it 120% every time. Before I came off I was really huge I think I ****ed up my PCT by not taking PCT at the right time so my natural levels were so depressed that it took probably close to 6 weeks to even wake up my pituitary gland even taking a legit serm. I'm talking one full year on cycle no brakes just straight addicted to that feeling of being on, another thing I wanted to note here is I'm coming off of a long stretch confusion. Taking a year off has given me a chance to step back and watch myself through the window to see what I need to work on stick to it make a plan and do it right every time. There have been some awesome people along my natty Journey that have helped me out with diet and just coping with the bull**** that comes along with breaking the addiction of being on cycle.


Anybody else have any other questions I'm in for the night relaxing just trolling the forums so throw them at me?
 
Application 20 I still can't believe 30 days is almost gone by it seems like it was a little too fast for me. I've noticed considerable changes in my attitude and overall performance due to the reduction of estrogen floating in my blood a boost and testosterone . since I'm not on cycle has occurred here I can't wait to see what this looks like on paper. I'm thinking of doing either a 12 week or a 16 week test cycle some point in 2017 I'd like to run this for week 4 - week 16 not sure if it's a good idea or not . Feeling tighter all over barely sitting down any more . Makes it hard to program haha . God bless IronLegion great company!!!
 
Had a low blood sugar issue. A little while ago . Almost passed out . Not sure where the fukk all my carbs are going but i feel drained.
 
Cjg said:
Got all carbed up and feeling better?
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Yes ! I literally felt like I was having a stroke or going into a coma . Very scary . I had 2 peanut butter sandwich close to 5 tbsp of pb . Half a gallon of water and 8 oz boneless chicken. That happened to me back in oct near the end of my trest / halo run. So i kinda knew what to do . But what puzzles me is ; how the fukk did i blow thru 60 g carbs doin burpees and liss ? Could be the fluctuations in my test/est ratio . Spurfy Hastur any ideas guys iam curious how 8 pancakes 6 sausages 2 tortilla wraps baked . All just goes away with minimal effort maybe an hour liss and 100 burpees. "Stationary Bike"
 
Cjg said:
Other than that.. virtus still treating u well??
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Absolutely. It was my own fault for not doin any intra carbs . I got lost in writing a report seemed like hours . 4 hrs to be exact . After that went by I decided to hammer out a quick burn session . Usually i eat smal amounts of beef or turkey or tuna straight out of the can . For a quick snak pre work out. Also i find heating up tortillas works well for me.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these products was improving your insulin sensitivity. Make sure you're getting your complex carbs and lean protein to keep that blood sugar stable.
 
Segansational said:
In on this as well.

Are you just running Virtus, or did you add in the Invictus around day 12 as well?
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Added in the invictus. Major changes have occurred. Majorly production of testosterone and body composition. I wake up sore nuts huge nuts . Body tight and looking good . My wife gets pissed she cant keep up .
 
nostrum420 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of these products was improving your insulin sensitivity. Make sure you're getting your complex carbs and lean protein to keep that blood sugar stable.
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Yup went out last night and grabbed a few boxes of pasta . Some sauce and meat.
I never knew much about how insulin worked . Time to learn i guess.
 
Just got done reading this thread at work Virtus sound great. dam its long.... in for the finale.
 
Studhorse said:
Just got done reading this thread at work Virtus sound great. dam its long.... in for the finale.
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On my past logs and other forums I used to include full mood weather any thoughts on the news some of those threads were like 40 pages long for a 30 day log . , welcome a I'm pretty excited about the finale as well.
 
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