Hulk going natty for a solid 365 days starting 1/1/16

The simple answer is if your eating 110 cals I one damn meal and your total daily intake is 120 then you better not eat another ****in carb the rest of that damn day . Simple ? Thought so
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Well total daily calorie intake is by far the most relevant factor in weight loss, so if someone is eating at a 500 calorie deficit and consuming 2500 calories a day, whether they spread it out over the course of the day in 5 meals or eat them in 2 meals, the same amount of energy is consumed. If he wants to eat a larger portion of his calories at night before bed, how does it make a difference??
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Lol, you can play devil's advocate all you want, the generally accepted - even if a little "antiquated" - is those carbs are gonna convert to energy and get stored as fat.

There's plenty of people and articles trying to discredit that but look really look at any professional physique competitors diet, you ain't gonna catch them eating carbs at night.
 
hairygrandpa said:
AustBenny and NoAddedHmones are right about the timing issue, carbs before bed = no-no. What I don't like is the bashing here, struggling myself with calories and whatnot.
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This is bro science bs. People need to stop saying this like its fact. It's not.

I eat ALL of my calories and carbs right before bed. Every. Single. Night.

I'm the biggest and leanest I've ever been and have maintained that for longer than ever.

Don't spout outdated garbage.
 
AustBenny said:
Lol, you can play devil's advocate all you want, the generally accepted - even if a little "antiquated" - is those carbs are gonna convert to energy and get stored as fat.

There's plenty of people and articles trying to discredit that but look really look at any professional physique competitors diet, you ain't gonna catch them eating carbs at night.
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How if you are in a deficit? how do you create excess energy from nothing? Let me guess INSULIN SPIKEZZZZ BRAH
 
booneman77 said:
This is def not true in any way... Eating carbs before bed being "bad" is a total myth. There's a myriad of research as well as anecdotal feedback that suggests it's actually optimal to do so as it'll help you build lean mass while still dropping fat due to an overall daily deficit.

The only real factor that is important for someone who is obese is a caloric deficit. As an obese person, that alone is enough to help one lose weight. You could prob eat almost 100% carbs or fat and still lose weight.
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Ah, good to know.
I take my carbs post workout only, should I switch to carbs before bed? I'm on back loading with 40gr carbs max. I train at night, between pwo and sleep are a 4 hour window.
 
Guys if im doing two hours a day of cardio and lifting 5 days a week really heavy weight. starving on off days and drinking 3 gals am I still in the red ??? I have noticed such a dramatic change in my body tho.
You guys are right my timing is off but im so overly active i maybe sit for 20 minutes a day total. Im almost always moving. Help me out here wat can I do better.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
How if you are in a deficit? how do you create excess energy from nothing? Let me guess INSULIN SPIKEZZZZ BRAH
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Lol, I know nothing about insulin spikes. The science doesn't interest me. What works does.

So I guess if you're in an overall deficit you will make progress but not AS MUCH progress as you otherwise could.

I sure as hell know what worked for me when I was a 225lb tub of lard to get me down to 165lb and it sure as hell wasn't eating a bunch of bread at night.
 
You need to calculate your tdee hulk and your maintenance cals , on top of that you need to make sure you add in cals used from when you workout Ontop of any cardio you do , then will you be able to determine if you are "in the red"
 
Joedoubledose said:
The simple answer is if your eating 110 cals I one damn meal and your total daily intake is 120 then you better not eat another ****in carb the rest of that damn day . Simple ? Thought so
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Bro it was just a wild guess. Plus im doin an hr on stat bike and full push up sit up dips regimen before bed. 1 day a week i eat steak the rest is low fat stuff all day every day . I probably hit my macros 4 out of 7 days,a,week
 
bighulksmash said:
Guys if im doing two hours a day of cardio and lifting 5 days a week really heavy weight. starving on off days and drinking 3 gals am I still in the red ??? I have noticed such a dramatic change in my body tho.
You guys are right my timing is off but im so overly active i maybe sit for 20 minutes a day total. Im almost always moving. Help me out here wat can I do better.
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As long as protein is high and you are in a deficit, it will work. That's how I understood it, but I'm eager to learn and somehow I always thought, taking carbs before bed is not the optimal time... So I will shut up and listen now.
 
bighulksmash said:
Guys if im doing two hours a day of cardio and lifting 5 days a week really heavy weight. starving on off days and drinking 3 gals am I still in the red ??? I have noticed such a dramatic change in my body tho.
You guys are right my timing is off but im so overly active i maybe sit for 20 minutes a day total. Im almost always moving. Help me out here wat can I do better.
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You know we've had this discussion 39562758473 times... 2 hrs of cardio is ridiculous unless you're a week out from a competition and like 4% bf.

There's literally zero reason for that. It's not even helping all that much if it's liss as that's at most a few hundred cals.

I would never waste that much of my day doing cardio when I could just eat like 10 less carrots ha.

You also really shouldn't be starving. If you are, you need to change your food choices to something less calorie dense. Chicken instead of fatty steak. Low cal veggies instead of potatoes and bread. Eat for volume while keeping cals the same.
 
Lol srs Hulk, you should be hitting your macros every day.

Plan out your diet, don't wing it.

Don't guess.

The hard truth is this:

(a) You need to count what is going into your body in grams and calories using the values that Booneman gave you.

(b) You can eat "bad" food like steak if it fits into your macros. Steak is not that bad, the fat content is a little high and so you may have to end up eating very low fat the rest of the day but you can work it.

(c) Try and eat your carbs around workout time, fats are okay at night. So you could have had bread before workout and then steak and mushrooms at night.

(d) There's a bunch of diet plans on the web that will help you man.

(e) Calculating your TDEE is a huge part of it. Doing that is really, really, really hard.
 
Those numbers don't really stack up either Hulk. How can your TDEE be 3139 if your BMR is 2165 yet you say you are doing so much?
 
booneman77 said:
You know we've had this discussion 39562758473 times... 2 hrs of cardio is ridiculous unless you're a week out from a competition and like 4% bf.

There's literally zero reason for that. It's not even helping all that much if it's liss as that's at most a few hundred cals.

I would never waste that much of my day doing cardio when I could just eat like 10 less carrots ha.

You also really shouldn't be starving. If you are, you need to change your food choices to something less calorie dense. Chicken instead of fatty steak. Low cal veggies instead of potatoes and bread. Eat for volume while keeping cals the same.
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Yes we have . Im doing this for conditioning . I was too impatient to lose .25 lbs a week . I want to see 3 to 5 lbs fall off a week. I know im prolly doing it wrong but for me the 2 hrs of cardio is better than sitting down . I have enormous amount of energy throughout the day. Im consuming Lots of broccoli daily. Also romaine lettuce and asparagus as well . Baby spinach leaves have become my potato chips.
 
You wanna see 3-5 lbs fall off in a week then use dnp ( don't actually) but that's not gonna happen unless you literally starve yourself man .
 
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Because Basal Metabolic Rate is the energy expenditure to just exist not taking into account any exercises etc.
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Oh really? I had no idea *rolls eyes*

So his difference between his BMR and his TDEE is 1000cals a day but he's doing like three hours of exercise apparently? When a good cardio workout should burn 500 cals in half an hour?
 
AustBenny said:
Oh really? I had no idea *rolls eyes*

So his difference between his BMR and his TDEE is 1000cals a day but he's doing like three hours of exercise apparently? When a good cardio workout should burn 500 cals in half an hour?
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LOL so much facepalm. I'll let you be.
 
AustBenny said:
Oh really? I had no idea *rolls eyes*

So his difference between his BMR and his TDEE is 1000cals a day but he's doing like three hours of exercise apparently? When a good cardio workout should burn 500 cals in half an hour?
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Those numbers were a guess froma website that didn't have any options on how to calculate it. I will learn how to calculate these things today .
 
IMHO, TDEE calculators do NOT work for everybody and can NOT be taken serious by everyone.

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Believing the calculator, my daily maintenance calories are at 3326 cal. I was on diets before, NOT exceeding 2000 cal/day, without loosing a single gram of body weight after the initial 2 weeks in.
Don't anybody say it's because "You were cheating on meals, or your workout sucked. "
IMHO, my metabolism is just slow as a turtle and my insulin sensitivity sucks.
Every cutting diet turns for me into a recomp - but hey, that's a good thing, I guess.

Here my advise as a noob with moderate success:
Hulk, go by the mirror, -not by the scale and NOT by calculators. Cut carbs to a minimum, train hard, do cardio and, with your thick build, stay around 2000-2500 cal/day. Adjusting from there.
 
hairygrandpa said:
IMHO, TDEE calculators do NOT work for everybody and can NOT be taken serious by everyone.

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Believing the calculator, my daily maintenance calories are at 3326 cal. I was on diets before, NOT exceeding 2000 cal/day, without loosing a single gram of body weight after the initial 2 weeks in.
Don't anybody say it's because "You were cheating on meals, or your workout sucked. "
IMHO, my metabolism is just slow as a turtle and my insulin sensitivity sucks.
Every cutting diet turns for me into a recomp - but hey, that's a good thing, I guess.

Here my advise as a noob with moderate success:
Hulk, go by the mirror, -not by the scale and NOT by calculators. Cut carbs to a minimum, train hard, do cardio and, with your thick build, stay around 2000-2500 cal/day. Adjusting from there.
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I truly appreciate your advice thats what i have been doing. I have issues sticking to macros but I have a good idea of what amd when to eat .
 
hairygrandpa said:
IMHO, TDEE calculators do NOT work for everybody and can NOT be taken serious by everyone.

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Believing the calculator, my daily maintenance calories are at 3326 cal. I was on diets before, NOT exceeding 2000 cal/day, without loosing a single gram of body weight after the initial 2 weeks in.
Don't anybody say it's because "You were cheating on meals, or your workout sucked. "
IMHO, my metabolism is just slow as a turtle and my insulin sensitivity sucks.
Every cutting diet turns for me into a recomp - but hey, that's a good thing, I guess.

Here my advise as a noob with moderate success:
Hulk, go by the mirror, -not by the scale and NOT by calculators. Cut carbs to a minimum, train hard, do cardio and, with your thick build, stay around 2000-2500 cal/day. Adjusting from there.
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Moderate success??? Tell me how you figure that? I saw your old log where you had a) a ridiculous stack that would've been to much for an IFBB pro and could've killed you b) a diet that made zero sense and had no rhyme or reason (and also could've nearly killed you paired with that stack)... And to top that off, you got almost zero positive results.

Add to that the advice you've given over the last couple days here... I wouldn't listen to a single word you said. Not even if it was about how to drink water to stay alive in the desert. Nope nope nope.
 
booneman77 said:
Moderate success??? Tell me how you figure that? I saw your old log where you had a) a ridiculous stack that would've been to much for an IFBB pro and could've killed you b) a diet that made zero sense and had no rhyme or reason (and also could've nearly killed you paired with that stack)... And to top that off, you got almost zero positive results.

Add to that the advice you've given over the last couple days here... I wouldn't listen to a single word you said. Not even if it was about how to drink water to stay alive in the desert. Nope nope nope.
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I appreciate your constructive contribution- and for the great advise you gave me in the past.
When I was overdosing on my stack, you jumped right in.Thanks to you I'm alive today. Holding my hand in the face of death was the greatest gift you could give me.
Few AM members here are so helpful and empathetic, you are an enrichment to the community and a living encyclopedia for sure.
bighulksmash , don't listen to my pathetic advise, you could end like me...
 
hairygrandpa said:
I appreciate your constructive contribution- and for the great advise you gave me in the past.
When I was overdosing on my stack, you jumped right in.Thanks to you I'm alive today. Holding my hand in the face of death was the greatest gift you could give me.
Few AM members here are so helpful and empathetic, you are an enrichment to the community and a living encyclopedia for sure.

bighulksmash , don't listen to my pathetic advise, you could end like me...
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You are a cool dude . Im not worried about wat anyone says . I been in that situation before and thats y I got off aas. Too much fail in one can of fail sauce. ..
 
bighulksmash said:
You are a cool dude . Im not worried about anyone says . I been in that situation before and thats y I got off aas. Too much fail in one can of fail sauce. ..
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live and learn...as long as you don't die in the process..... going natty is a definite step in right direction, imo!!!
 
bighulksmash said:
You are a cool dude . Im not worried about anyone says . I been in that situation before and thats y I got off aas. Too much fail in one can of fail sauce. ..
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The biggest error "chubby guys" like us do is, if we finally are motivated to radical change our sedentary life, we want BIG changes NOW. It's then that critical thinking stalls, risk is taken and bad choices are made.
Personally, I'm sort of a masochist. If someone says : It can't be done, it makes me try to show him otherwise. This behavior leads often to failure, but not always, otherwise I would now live under a bridge, having hobo sex.
 
hairygrandpa said:
The biggest error "chubby guys" like us do is, if we finally are motivated to radical change our sedentary life, we want BIG changes NOW. It's then that critical thinking stalls, risk is taken and bad choices are made.
Personally, I'm sort of a masochist. If someone says : It can't be done, it makes me try to show him otherwise. This behavior leads often to failure, but not always, otherwise I would now live under a bridge, having hobo sex.
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Lmfao haha ... i did like 8 bulking cycles in instead of cutting until 15%bf. I got it this time tho !
 
bighulksmash said:
Lmfao haha ... i did like 8 bulking cycles in instead of cutting until 15%bf. I got it this time tho !
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I did exactly the same, reasoning, that when I got more muscular it would be easier to shed fat later on, because I'd burn more cals.


As a helpful member mentioned, don't listen to what I say, promise?
 
hairygrandpa said:
I did exactly the same, reasoning, that when I got more muscular it would be easier to shed fat later on, because I'd burn more cals.


As a helpful member mentioned, don't listen to what I say, promise?
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If there was a dislike button id hit it. Sharing your experience with me is fine. I made the mistake of not having all my ducks in a row before doing cycles.
 
Not having all your ducks in a row, one might say that you were.....







Quacked out.


...ill see myself out now.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I did exactly the same, reasoning, that when I got more muscular it would be easier to shed fat later on, because I'd burn more cals.


As a helpful member mentioned, don't listen to what I say, promise?
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actually it is good that you did post it. gave people a chance to read it, understand why it could/couldn't work and for those to offer advice. everyone is here to learn and share. isn't that why we have this forum in the first place?
 
smith_69 said:
actually it is good that you did post it. gave people a chance to read it, understand why it could/couldn't work and for those to offer advice. everyone is here to learn and share. isn't that why we have this forum in the first place?
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Exactly.

If the person, who is clearly wrong, dismisses advise, should be popcorn time not -bashing time.
 
hairygrandpa said:
I appreciate your constructive contribution- and for the great advise you gave me in the past.
When I was overdosing on my stack, you jumped right in.Thanks to you I'm alive today. Holding my hand in the face of death was the greatest gift you could give me.
Few AM members here are so helpful and empathetic, you are an enrichment to the community and a living encyclopedia for sure.

bighulksmash , don't listen to my pathetic advise, you could end like me...
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hahaha because you listened to the other 234254252 people that bothered to type up their thoughts on your run.
 
in all my years as a recovering alcoholic I have learned a lot of 'life lessons'...the most important one being that before you can change 1st you must accept you have a problem....understanding that your diet and use of anabolic's had become a problem is a huge 1st step....your willingness to make changes is what is most important, imo!!!


good luck bighulksmash, it looks like you have a lot of guys wishing you success-me included!!!
 
booneman77 said:
hahaha because you listened to the other 234254252 people that bothered to type up their thoughts on your run.
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Well, I tried anyway.

For you finding out, that not all people follow directions of the majority, I clicked the "like" button on your post.
 
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