HowS this cycle look??

F0xx3r

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Typed a huge thing and it all deleted, so yea... here's what I plan on running next cycle, looking opinions on timing and overall layout of the cycle, thanks!!

Weeks 1-4
BSL alpha1 max / 2 pills each day
IML 4-Andro / 2 pills each day
ironlabs Cycle support / 4 pills each day

Weeks 5-8
BSL Super DMZ 2.0 / 2 pills each day
AT Xtreme Tren-6 / 3 pills each day
ironlabs Cycle support / 4 pills each day

Weeks 9-12
ironlabs xtreme PCT / Following label
BSL Growth / 3 pills each day
Tamoxifen / 20mg daily.

Thoughts?? I also have a bottle of LGD-4033 and unsure if to take with next cycle, pct, or bridge it after my current alpha cycle...thanks
 
I'd add 1000mg TUDCA weeks 1-8. Alpha is very hepatoxic and the DMZ is also harsh. Your liver is gonna take a beating from 8 weeks of harsh methyls. You need an AI on hand for estrogen/gyno sides on cycle. BLR has a very strong oral AI releasing very soon. If not that you need something like Exemestane on hand in case. Also you need to taper down your Nolva something like 20/20/10/10. Prolactrone would work for prolactin control when the Tren starts.
 
Yea look into some Aegis Liver Protection by Antaeus Labs at Strong Supplement Shop. That would be a good support supp to add on.
 
Just ran a cycle like this and really wish I would have just picked 2 compounds and run them for 8 weeks. 4 weeks really isn't enough, just when it's getting good you are going to switch. I say replan.
 
Thanks for the knowledge bomb, I'll look into all of this... Now with the nolva, would running a week at 20mg, then remaining 3 weeks at 10mg, or would you have a more specific plan on that?
 
20/20/10/10. That's the normal schem most follow. So 20 mg every day for two weeks then taper down to 10 mg for two more.
 
Afi140 said:
Also up the dosage as it will only be 100mg daily at two capsules. Try and get 300mg daily. Look at andro the giant if you need more as it will be the most cost effective option by far.
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Wish I knew about this a few days ago lol, only grabbed one bottle of the 4andro, anyways... and thanks


Added 4andro to next cycle due to some lethargy with my current alpha cycle.
 
Trust me I feel you. I have two bottles of iml 4-andro as well. I got it 6 days before I knew about andro the giant lol.
 
Volvo140G said:
Damn! Lotta good advice in here!

I'll chime in: exemestane (have it on hand)
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Was looking into it more, found some online.. now this is more of just incase I start seeing gyno signs, correct? What's the proper dosage also?

Got a nice shopping list just growing and growing!!! One more thing, would 4 weeks alpha 4 weeks dmz2.0 or 8 weeks alpha be better?? (Already have a bottle of alpha, reason I'm asking.) Only running tren for 4 weeks due to price, but mout likely will grab the andro, prolactin tudca and exemestane..

And another thing, is my PCT enough? Asking because now I'll be taking even more things on cycle.. I kmow blackstone Lans growth isn't needed but already got a bottle.


Edit:: anyone want to chime in on the LGD-4033? (By chaos&pain)
 
You may not need the exem bit if your nips light up you'll thanks the good Lord you have it on hand - not 3-5.days away! There's a board sponsor IMightReccommed.

On cycle - I'd dose 12.5 mg first few days after signs of high estro then drop to 6.25 every day for a bit. May even drop it if high estrogen symptoms cease to be....
 
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8 weeks of Alpha is a really long Alpha Cycle man... Grab some inhibit P for that Tren, and consider a 6 weeker for alpha, doesnt have to be an 8 week cycle
 
Actually for that Alpha I'd just run for 4 weeks. Read that it's one of the most liver toxic compounds there is so a short cycle is ideal. A lot of gains will come in just four weeks. I have a bunch but haven't used it yet so I'm no expert.
I think you should save the Ligandrol for later. Find another SARM to stack with.
 
MTPMJM said:
8 weeks of Alpha is a really long Alpha Cycle man... Grab some inhibit P for that Tren, and consider a 6 weeker for alpha, doesnt have to be an 8 week cycle
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Inhibit P ran alongside or with pct? Saw recommendation of Prolactrone for tren? If need both tren sounds intense needing all these extras lol

Edit:: wouldn't the SERM be my answer to estrogen, or also need an anti-estrogen too
 
Inhibit P or Prolactrone are for controlling prolactin sides which can get out of control while on Tren. Both are great. Only one is needed. I'm partial to Prolactrone.
AI is for keeping estrogen levels low on cycle. A SERM is for binding up estrogen during PCT to raise LH and FSH and help your body to restore its natural HPTA function. Some things may or may not be needed. But if you haven't cycled these things before you have no idea how your body will respond. If you have a problem and have to wait 5-7 days to get something you will be in bad shape. Same principle as a condom or a gun. Much better to have it and never need it than to need it and not have it. I'm all about helping you cycle successfully but make sure you're understanding what you're taking and why. Don't just rely on faceless people on the Internet to say "take this" or "take that".
 
^^^ive used prolactrone off cycle - WOW!! Awesome product, the deep sleep it facilitated was insane!
 
Jebrook said:
Inhibit P or Prolactrone are for controlling prolactin sides which can get out of control while on Tren. Both are great. Only one is needed. I'm partial to Prolactrone.
AI is for keeping estrogen levels low on cycle. A SERM is for binding up estrogen during PCT to raise LH and FSH and help your body to restore its natural HPTA function. Some things may or may not be needed. But if you haven't cycled these things before you have no idea how your body will respond. If you have a problem and have to wait 5-7 days to get something you will be in bad shape. Same principle as a condom or a gun. Much better to have it and never need it than to need it and not have it. I'm all about helping you cycle successfully but make sure you're understanding what you're taking and why. Don't just rely on faceless people on the Internet to say "take this" or "take that".
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Thank you for helping me learn more and not being a (ya know) about it like you could of been lol, much appreciated to you and the others who helped me out.

Another forum I asked on, basically said my initial stack thst was posted up top, was good to go.

Edit :: question tho, could exemestane be taking at a low dose entire cycle to kind of kill the chance of even getting possible gyno signs or just wait til it happens , if it happens... and go from there?
 
I say wait on the exemestane and use it only if you need it. You don't want to tank your estrogen and that is easy to do running a strong ai with no need
 
Sorry to bring this thread back up but finished my little cycle of just a1m 2ed for 4 weeks, with support.. gained about 10lbs of body weight, all maxes went up (running 531), DL up by 40lb, squat up by 60lb, bench 20lb and ohp 10lb... can't wait to start this bigger cycle after pct and time off!!
 
F0xx3r said:
Sorry to bring this thread back up but finished my little cycle of just a1m 2ed for 4 weeks, with support.. gained about 10lbs of body weight, all maxes went up (running 531), DL up by 40lb, squat up by 60lb, bench 20lb and ohp 10lb... can't wait to start this bigger cycle after pct and time off!!
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Nice gains for a short 4 weaker. What were the sides like? And don't forget to keep up the intensity and cals during PCT. Good job.
 
Of course gonna eat big still, and continue 531 with adjusted numbers.. well

Week 1 no sides
week 2 lethargic
week 3 back pumps I believe, lower bask stiffer and I'd feel like my back throb while laying down
week 4 semi decrease in appetite

Unsure if week 4 is related to the a1m but excited for bigger cycle with added tudca and andro etc.
 
F0xx3r said:
Of course gonna eat big still, and continue 531 with adjusted numbers.. well

Week 1 no sides
week 2 lethargic
week 3 back pumps I believe, lower bask stiffer and I'd feel like my back throb while laying down
week 4 semi decrease in appetite

Unsure if week 4 is related to the a1m but excited for bigger cycle with added tudca and andro etc.
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That decreased appetite is a sign of liver stress. Plenty of tudca and Nac can help you avoid those sides in the future
 
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