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hows my hdrol+pct looking bros?

southparkbbb

southparkbbb

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pre-loading:
milk thiste (3g ED)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)

cycle:
H-drol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thistle (3g ed)
fish oil (2g ed)
orange triad multi (6 pills ED)
Taurine (10g, when needed only)

PCT:
clomid: 50/50/50/50
APE test booster (2 pills ed; starting test booster 5 days prior to ending h-drol, then contuining though pct)
fish oil (2g ed)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thisle (3g ed)
Max CLA (3g ed to get lipids back on track)


any input/review is appreciated
 
southparkbbb said:
how are the sides of clomid? this my first ever PH/steroid cycle and done the research and heard clomid could have some pretty nasty sides at 100 ed
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Sucks actually. But I think pct its self sucks
 
also have another question, been doing some research into this and been seing mixed answers.

do you think it would be sensible to take caffeine in the later weeks of the cycle when the fatique starts to hit pretty hard? if not, maybe a non caffein product such as hemavol could suffice?

going to monitor my BP on the daily, and hoping i can add these in without goin overboard
 
Sorry I don't ha e experience with hdrol. And haven't realty followed many hdrol logs. I like caffeine in general, but might not be good on cycle. You would have to feel it out. Check out a few more logs and research it alittle more. I don't want to miss guide you.
Do you have a diet guide line to follow.
 
southparkbbb said:
also have another question, been doing some research into this and been seing mixed answers.

do you think it would be sensible to take caffeine in the later weeks of the cycle when the fatique starts to hit pretty hard? if not, maybe a non caffein product such as hemavol could suffice?

going to monitor my BP on the daily, and hoping i can add these in without goin overboard
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Fatigue/lethargy may be a sign of something more that caffeine may not be able to mask. Monitor your caffeine consumption around when you dose your Hdrol; I'd wait a couple hours between doses just to be safe.

Are you sensitive to caffeine? It is a mild diuretic, and adequate H2O on cycle has helped me with mild fatigue on cycle. Another thing to consider I guess.
 
Might also want to consider Dermacrine or some test base to combat fatigue/lethargy.
 
@ murk- yes my diets in check and feel im ready for the cycle

@sid- Thanks for the info bro, i consume 1-2 gallons of water a day as is but will defintly make sure i maintain tht on cycle; not rlly lookin to pin for my 1st cycle, maybe for future cycles. will monitor caffine and BP
 
ok, buddy lets review thiis cycle, see if we can get some more input.

pre-loading:
milk thiste (3g ED)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)

cycle:
H-drol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thistle (3g ed)
fish oil (2g ed)
orange triad multi (6 pills ED)
Taurine (10g, when needed only) 3-5g should be fine

PCT:
clomid: 50/50/50/50 at least 100/100/50/50
APE test booster (2 pills ed; starting test booster 5 days prior to ending h-drol, then contuining though pct) no need for test booster during cycle.
fish oil (2g ed)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thisle (3g ed)
Max CLA (3g ed to get lipids back on track)

DAA 3g a day
Erase @ 3/3/2/2/1 u said APE test booster has an AI, i would still use tried,tested,true


6'3// 201lb//11% bf. you at a good start. just maybe a little young


someone else chime in.
 
murk01 said:
ok, buddy lets review thiis cycle, see if we can get some more input.

pre-loading:
milk thiste (3g ED)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)

cycle:
H-drol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thistle (3g ed)
fish oil (2g ed)
orange triad multi (6 pills ED)
Taurine (10g, when needed only) 3-5g should be fine

PCT:
clomid: 50/50/50/50 at least 100/100/50/50
APE test booster (2 pills ed; starting test booster 5 days prior to ending h-drol, then contuining though pct) no need for test booster during cycle.
fish oil (2g ed)
hawthorn berry (2.4g ed)
milk thisle (3g ed)
Max CLA (3g ed to get lipids back on track)

DAA 3g a day
Erase @ 3/3/2/2/1 u said APE test booster has an AI, i would still use tried,tested,true


6'3// 201lb//11% bf. you at a good start. just maybe a little young


someone else chime in.
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appreciate it man, will order more clomid and up the dose to 100 for first 2 weeks (assuming the sides are tolerable) before dropping down. think i can jus use APE test booster in place of daa?
 
heres the specs for APE TEST



NUTRITION FACTS †
Serving Size 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container 20

Amount Per Serving

Serving % DV
Vitamin D (as Cholecalciferol) 1000 IU 250%

Folate (as Folic Acid) 100 mcg 25%

Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate) 5 mg 250%

Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate) 15 mg 100%

Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 10 mcg 167%

APE Pro-Testosterone / Anti-Estrogen Complex Blend 1305 mg -


Proprietary Blends

APE Pro-Testosterone / Anti-Estrogen Complex Blend
GlycoCarn (glycine propionyl-L-Carnitine Hydrochloride), TestoSurge (Fenugreek Extract 80% Glycosides) (Trigonella foenum graecum)(seed), Maca Extract 4:1 (lipidium meyenii)(root), Indole-3 Carbinol, EuryGold (std. to 28% glycosaponins, 20% polysaccharides)(Eurycoma Longifolia)(root), Bioperine (Black pepper Extract)(std. to 95% piperine)(Piper nigrum)(fruit)


Its good, but i would also get some DAA, its cheap and can only help.

and at ur size clomid should b no prob
 
Everyone has there own clomid dosing. Having ran it multiple times and after my last couple of cycles my blood work came back great using 50/50/25/25. Obviously I did use other supplements in PCT as you are. If it is pharma grade or reliable clomid your probably don't need the 2 weeks at 100.
 
50/50/25/25 is standard clomid protocol. You could do 100 first couple days though. I'm not a fan of clomid makes you feel like a girl. Torem is my fav SERM, fast and easy recovery.
 
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