How to run properly

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Hi! This is my first cycle.
I got Tren acetate and Test prop I was wondering how to run this cycle properly ..
I was thinking to run like this:
1-8 Test Prop 150 a week and 100 Tren a week
Do you think i need to increase dosages after 8 weeks? Or i can start with Test prop 250 a week and 150 tren a week?
I want to go for 12 weeks
And can i mix them in same syringe with same dosage ?
Sex: Male
Age:29
Weight : 75kg
Height: 5’4ft
Workout : 5 times a week
Maintenance calories: 2499 (high protein diet)
I done blood test 6 months ago and everything is good
Goal to keep mass and get more leaner
I know somebody will be “Don’t use tren for your first cycle “ I know is dangerous but i want to try.
In this pictures I’m natural

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The guys are gonna tell you not to run tren on your first cycle. Test only.

Post more info if you really want the best advice though. Age, weight, height, bf%, training history, goals, diet plan, do you intend to PCT (and if so, with what?) and get bloods done before you start your cycle so you have a baseline for all of your health markers before you start using gear.

You'll get better advice from the guys who know their stuff if you post that. And when they tell you not to use tren on your first cycle: listen!
 
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The guys are gonna tell you not to run tren on your first cycle. Test only.

Post more info if you really want the best advice though. Age, weight, height, bf%, training history, goals, diet plan, do you intend to PCT (and if so, with what?) and get bloods done before you start your cycle so you have a baseline for all of your health markers before you start using gear.

You'll get better advice from the guys who know their stuff if you post that. And when they tell you not to use tren on your first cycle: listen!
Thanks I added more info , I know tren is hardcore but i want to try
 
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I dont want to be d1ck but I see no point of asking for advice when you want to do it your way anyway. (you want to run Tren , you bought Tren,and most likely going to use it too no matter what we say).
Even many experienced steroid users will say Tren is pure poison, ofcourse they will tell you to NOT add Tren in your first cycle.
Im 100% natty but my knowledge about steroids/PED's, research chemicals, medicines etc is there. I would definitely say dont run Tren for your first cycle and there are very few people feeling ok on Tren. (Seen many bloodwork done after Tren Cycle).

You are natty and want to do your first cycle. Its your choice and you want to bring results to another level. Thats fine and its.your choice. But I dont understand why you want to go for the strongest steroid in your first cycle?

Its like you never have been in the plane before but you want the first flight to be in F-22.
 
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Tren on your first cycle=fukin foolish, short esters on a first cycle is also kinda a bad idea. You need to pin short esters daily or at bare minimum EOD.

I'm not gonna say your first cycle has to be test only. But it should be.

At the most I would run 300-400mg test and then at the very end of the cycle maybe add a mild oral or some npp the last 5-6 weeks.

No1 is here to say tren is dangerous,

Tren on a first cycle is stupid, point blank period It's f****** moronic.

When you start getting side effects how do you know it's from test or tren?

How do you dial in your testosterone dose and possible need or no need for a ai if you got tren or something else in the mix.

If you start growing tits or lactating how do you know if it's estrogen or prolactin gyno.

If your dick stops working how do you know if it's from estrogen or prolactin or something with your brain chemicals.


You know what, **** it. Since you just got your driver's permit you might as well crash and burn in a Lamborghini.

Test p and tren a 30-50mg each daily

Your gonna need a ai, raloxefine and prami or caber on hand for side effects.

If **** starts going wrong you can start alternating between those 3 things till you figure out what one fixes the problem.

Might wanna have Viagra or Cialis on hand

Should absolutely have a blood pressure medication on hand.

And that's about it.
 
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I dont want to be d1ck but I see no point of asking for advice when you want to do it your way anyway. (you want to run Tren , you bought Tren,and most likely going to use it too no matter what we say).
Even many experienced steroid users will say Tren is pure poison, ofcourse they will tell you to NOT add Tren in your first cycle.
Im 100% natty but my knowledge about steroids/PED's, research chemicals, medicines etc is there. I would definitely say dont run Tren for your first cycle and there are very few people feeling ok on Tren. (Seen many bloodwork done after Tren Cycle).

You are natty and want to do your first cycle. Its your choice and you want to bring results to another level. Thats fine and its.your choice. But I dont understand why you want to go for the strongest steroid in your first cycle?

Its like you never have been in the plane before but you want the first flight to be in F-22.
^^^ This ^^^
 
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@Smont @Hyde Are you guys even going to attempt this one because I can't SMH. Hey bro I just want to say good luck and it seems like you have a good base. The one question I will answer is yes you can mix them in the same syringe. I feel dirty for even answering that but it seems your set just please be careful
 

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Just looking at your pics op seriously bro you have a really good base/foundation. You did everything perfect right up until now. Obviously you've been training your ass off for years now. You actually have your diet on point which 90% of natties don't when they come here. They think they do but their pics would say otherwise and you waited until you were older than 25. 29 is actually a perfect age to start. Like I said you did everything right up until now so please be open minded were not trying to be dicks it's just we don't see many who've done it right so you actually have something to work with and we don't want you to ruin it now
 
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Just looking at your pics op seriously bro you have a really good base/foundation. You did everything perfect right up until now. Obviously you've been training your ass off for years now. You actually have your diet on point which 90% of natties don't when they come here. They think they do but their pics would say otherwise and you waited until you were older than 25. 29 is actually a perfect age to start. Like I said you did everything right up until now so please be open minded were not trying to be dicks it's just we don't see many who've done it right so you actually have something to work with and we don't want you to ruin it now
This

If the goal is just bigger muscles (Health and how you feel on cycle is not priority) then just go for it.
If you want to get most possible from the cycle while feeling you are living good and not just feeling like you exsist then there are MANY things to look for while on anabolics (Especially Tren).
Is high blood pressure the problem? Libido? Feeling depressed due to Dopamine drop (Drop in dopamine = Increased prolactin) +++.
There are many things here and if you havent been thinking of those things allready then you are not ready for steroids at all. No matter how long you have been lifting natty, no matter how good your diet is etc.
 
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Fck that. Why not just go all in?
Make sure you add Insulin/HGH protocol too 😁
I'd rather see someone use insulin and HGH on their first cycle over tren, as long as you can do basic math, insulin is not nearly as dangerous as it's made out to be.

There's absolutely zero need for slin and GH but at least there bioidentical hormones that can be used in a health conscious manner.

There's no scenario where tren was the health conscious decision
 
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Lots of good points made above. You already have made great progress, you don't need to jump straight to tren.

And for whatever it's worth. Every short guy I've seen who was decent as a Natty blew up on there first cycle. Get on some test at 3-400 per week and rock out
 
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You did everything right up until now. Right age to start, diet mastered, training that works for you - your physique speaks for itself. You have the foundation to do something great here. You already look awesome!

And you’re about to **** it all up because you can’t wait 6 more months.






The reason you hear about test first is because it’s your base, and you need to learn how you respond without adding a bunch of variables at once. You wouldn’t change your entire diet radically; you would make systemic changes so you can control the outcome. Learning one compound at a time lets you do this same thing with your drugs, to manage side effects.

We’re all drug users; we’re not going to tell you not to use tren if it meets your goals. But we’re going to tell you how to use your drugs best to get the most results. And you need to save your big guns for when you know how to use them and when they make sense.

3-400 test will be plenty to recomp you now while you diet. On a first cycle, you will actually gain muscle even while you shred. Then at the end you can add some Winstrol or Anavar to finish strong and hard. On a first cycle, this is going to be sick. My first cycle was just a month of Epistane and I put on 7lbs while getting leaner in 4 weeks. Imagine what 12 weeks of testosterone with a similar oral at the end would have done!

THEN on your second cycle later next year, you can add Tren if you want, because now you have your foundation. So you know how not to get gyno (everyone needs different levels of control for this and it takes practice), which will ruin a great physique faster than you can believe, no matter how ripped you are.
 
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Aa you can see, you're not being discouraged from using gear here.

You're just being discouraged from using tren right now.

If you just do test you can get a TON of help here, because there are so many fewer variables, and because the experts here will know that you are willing to listen to their advice.

If you use tren and start growing boobs or lactating the only advice you're going to get is: stop the cycle, told you so.
 
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This is the main point here, no one is saying don't use gear, in fact I absolutely think you should be hopping on gear right now lol. I really do! You should just do it properly
 
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And if you think you can get better advice from reddit or youtube, for a cycle, than you can here: you're very mistaken. :geek:;)
 
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This is the main point here, no one is saying don't use gear, in fact I absolutely think you should be hopping on gear right now lol. I really do! You should just do it properly
yea and having realistic expectations and be aware of sides etc.
 
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I’ll steer clear of tren anymore **** is harsh af. The night sweats especially when I was deploy in the Stan were no joke. Help me cut though. @Armen dude I hope you have everything lined up to keep your organs and everything good. Have a good pct lined up and good luck because I’m sure you’ve pinned it already.
 

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