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I wish we could permaban this guy. Getting tired of these posts over and over.
Hey man you seem to spread a lot of negativity! It’s not right bro if you don’t like my post it’s simple don’t view it buddy. The whole purpose of the forum is to disgust AAS and get different opinions no harm is being done so what’s your problem.
 
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Hey man you seem to spread a lot of negativity! It’s not right bro if you don’t like my post it’s simple don’t view it buddy. The whole purpose of the forum is to disgust AAS and get different opinions no harm is being done so what’s your problem.
Yeah that is the purpose of the forum, for those 21 and up. You don’t meet the criteria, so you don’t belong here. I’m not being negative, I’m dealing in facts.
 
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I agree he's really too young but acting like 500mg of test is some crazy dangerous cycle, is a little over the top.

OP, be sure have all your ancillaries on hand and HAVE YOUR PCT READY BEFORE YOU START THE CYCLE. Young guys getting mad because they're near the end of their cycle and their SERM order got delayed, always kills me.
I agree he's really too young but acting like 500mg of test is some crazy dangerous cycle, is a little over the top.

OP, be sure have all your ancillaries on hand and HAVE YOUR PCT READY BEFORE YOU START THE CYCLE. Young guys getting mad because they're near the end of their cycle and their SERM order got delayed, always kills me.
everything is copacetic,for my pct! Should I worry about having a heart attack or stroke on this cycle????
 
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Hey man what about roid rage, I am already a hot head who snaps a lot will I still be able to control my temper??
Almost everything you’re asking is going to be user dependent. If you’re a dick, you’re probably still gonna be a dick though.
 
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Hey man what about roid rage, I am already a hot head who snaps a lot will I still be able to control my temper??
From my experience, you will feel more aggression, but you will also have more control over it, unless you let your e2 get out of control (in my experience when my e2 went up my ability to control anger went down).

Gains are, like others said, diet dependent. Keep calories at maintenance, and you will slowly but surely lose fat and gain strength and some mass. Up your calories significantly and you will be surprised at your delts and traps starting to pop like they never have before. You don't get any leaner this way.
Run a sound training program. I like full body 3x week, even while on test. 3 main compound movements with 1 or 2 isolations for lagging bodyparts per workout.

9 weeks into my first blast of 500mg test /week (also masteron for the last 2 weeks, 400 and 200 mg respectively) and those are my findings. Went from 220 to 240 (100kg to 110kg) with small amount of fat gain.

I am not a whole lot older than you so I am not going to tell you whether you should do this, but just stay on top of things. Monitor your bloodwork and heart function. Yes, everyone is talking about impotence, not being able to get it up, infertility, but cardiovascular stuff is, imho, what should be worrying you the most.

In only 45 days my hematocrit shot up from 0.47 to 0.53+. Having high blood pressure and breathing like a suffocating fish is not fun. I thought this hematocrit, hemoglobin stuff only happens to older guys, but boy was I wrong. High hematocrit means that your blood is thick. That can cause stroke, heart attack but it also makes your heart work harder and will accelerate left ventricular hypertrophy. Make sure these numbers don't get out of control and you shouldn't have a stroke. Also, make sure you control e2 as high e2= bloat = elevated blood pressure (again, a nice additional strain on your heart).

Just saying that this ain't protein powder which at worst might make you fart more.
 
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From my experience, you will feel more aggression, but you will also have more control over it, unless you let your e2 get out of control (in my experience when my e2 went up my ability to control anger went down).

Gains are, like others said, diet dependent. Keep calories at maintenance, and you will slowly but surely lose fat and gain strength and some mass. Up your calories significantly and you will be surprised at your delts and traps starting to pop like they never have before. You don't get any leaner this way.
Run a sound training program. I like full body 3x week, even while on test. 3 main compound movements with 1 or 2 isolations for lagging bodyparts per workout.

9 weeks into my first blast of 500mg test /week (also masteron for the last 2 weeks, 400 and 200 mg respectively) and those are my findings. Went from 220 to 240 (100kg to 110kg) with small amount of fat gain.

I am not a whole lot older than you so I am not going to tell you whether you should do this, but just stay on top of things. Monitor your bloodwork and heart function. Yes, everyone is talking about impotence, not being able to get it up, infertility, but cardiovascular stuff is, imho, what should be worrying you the most.

In only 45 days my hematocrit shot up from 0.47 to 0.53+. Having high blood pressure and breathing like a suffocating fish is not fun. I thought this hematocrit, hemoglobin stuff only happens to older guys, but boy was I wrong. High hematocrit means that your blood is thick. That can cause stroke, heart attack but it also makes your heart work harder and will accelerate left ventricular hypertrophy. Make sure these numbers don't get out of control and you shouldn't have a stroke. Also, make sure you control e2 as high e2= bloat = elevated blood pressure (again, a nice additional strain on your heart).

Just saying that this ain't protein powder which at worst might make you fart more.
How did you lower your blood pressure when hematocrit was high?
 
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Hey man what about roid rage, I am already a hot head who snaps a lot will I still be able to control my temper??
You'll be able to control yourself. Whether or not you choose to is another story. Halotestin and Cheque drops are the only things I've come across that I believe can legitimately cause psychosis.
 
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You'll be able to control yourself. Whether or not you choose to is another story. Halotestin and Cheque drops are the only things I've come across that I believe can legitimately cause psychosis.
Tren, Methyl tren, and dimethyl tren, also.

**** will make you go Chris Benoit.
 
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Not going into the medical problems here, as they should be apparent.
Roids at 18 and having the dream to become a pro. Reminds me of: "Daddy, I wanna be an Astronaut!"
Do you have parents? Do they know what you are doing? Do you have any idea how much money future cycles, food, lab tests, injury treatments will cost? How you gonna pay for this? Who will pay? You also may need some surgery to get that loose skin off for the stage. Think about it brother. Chances are slim to become someone who can make a living from looking muscular. You could get an income from gay 4 pay, once you are big enough, to sell your muscular ass to gay-grandpas.
 
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Not going into the medical problems here, as they should be apparent.
Roids at 18 and having the dream to become a pro. Reminds me of: "Daddy, I wanna be an Astronaut!"
Do you have parents? Do they know what you are doing? Do you have any idea how much money future cycles, food, lab tests, injury treatments will cost? How you gonna pay for this? Who will pay? You also may need some surgery to get that loose skin off for the stage. Think about it brother. Chances are slim to become someone who can make a living from looking muscular. You could get an income from gay 4 pay, once you are big enough, to sell your muscular ass to gay-grandpas.
Most of the gay for pay I’ve...uh... seen... they just want to pay to suck/play with your Johnson.
 
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Not going into the medical problems here, as they should be apparent.
Roids at 18 and having the dream to become a pro. Reminds me of: "Daddy, I wanna be an Astronaut!"
Do you have parents? Do they know what you are doing? Do you have any idea how much money future cycles, food, lab tests, injury treatments will cost? How you gonna pay for this? Who will pay? You also may need some surgery to get that loose skin off for the stage. Think about it brother. Chances are slim to become someone who can make a living from looking muscular. You could get an income from gay 4 pay, once you are big enough, to sell your muscular ass to gay-grandpas.
I have the money don’t worry! I have a job. And don’t pay bills. I think the loose skin can be filled in with chest workouts if I get a good enough pump it temporarily goes away!
 
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Most of the gay for pay I’ve...uh... seen... they just want to pay to suck/play with your Johnson.
Good news for OP. After awhile it will get difficult to get Johnson up, sucking grandpas are an option.
I have the money don’t worry! I have a job. And don’t pay bills. I think the loose skin can be filled in with chest workouts if I get a good enough pump it temporarily goes away!


That brother, will never fill out. I congratulate you for your tremendous fat loss -but keep it real.
Look around you. How many big dudes are walking the streets who are better looking -and not pro's.
Try to be rational. Pro bodybuilders are nowadays not very popular, since kids like you discovered roids.
Not paying bills means : Living with your parents. How about investing your energy in something useful and keep lifting as a healthy past time?
 
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Good news for OP. After awhile it will get difficult to get Johnson up, sucking grandpas are an option.



That brother, will never fill out. I congratulate you for your tremendous fat loss -but keep it real.
Look around you. How many big dudes are walking the streets who are better looking -and not pro's.
Try to be rational. Pro bodybuilders are nowadays not very popular, since kids like you discovered roids.
Not paying bills means : Living with your parents. How about investing your energy in something useful and keep lifting as a healthy past time?
Why do you say it will never fill out? It filled out already it was much worse before! I seen a guy with worse loose skin and they filled out naturally!
 
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Why do you say it will never fill out? It filled out already it was much worse before! I seen a guy with worse loose skin and they filled out naturally!
We are talking for the stage, remind you...at low bf%.
Do you have a better pic?
 
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Why do you say it will never fill out? It filled out already it was much worse before! I seen a guy with worse loose skin and they filled out naturally!
Why do you come here and ask for advice if you’re just going to argue with it?
 
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Maybe you should talk to them then.
That’s what I am trying to do you say I’m arguing!
We are talking for the stage, remind you...at low bf%.
Do you have a better pic?
We are talking for the stage, remind you...at low bf%.
Do you have a better pic?
So what do you mean exactly?if bulk up my chest I know they will go away because they do when I get a good pump! What do you mean they will never go away for stage?
 
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That’s what I am trying to do you say I’m arguing!

So what do you mean exactly?if bulk up my chest I know they will go away because they do when I get a good pump! What do you mean they will never go away for stage?
Better pic first, should be easy. Minimal gyno, like a kernel of a cherry behind a nipple can be decisive on stage.
 
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Besides, the lose skin is only one argument against your decision to become pro. It is also the easiest to dismiss (surgery). So don't make that a strawman argument.
 
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Besides, the lose skin is only one argument against your decision to become pro. It is also the easiest to dismiss (surgery). So don't make that a strawman argument.
I don’t want surgery I feel 5-8 more pounds to my chest will fix the problem would you agree?
 
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Here you go my friend!
Here, in case others missed it:



As I said, it can be fixed with surgery later on. Hips and tummy too, if it looks like I suspect.
Good luck in becoming a pro. Can it be done? Probably. What are the odds? Astronomical. What are the benefits if you can make it? Selling supplements for a company, getting wooden trophies, a enlarged heart, hip and knee replacement and being a teeny idol like Justin Bieber, for the short while your young life lasts.

With that I'm out.
 
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I don’t want surgery I feel 5-8 more pounds to my chest will fix the problem would you agree?
5-8 pounds of muscle tissue just on your chest eh? Good luck with that.
 
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Here, in case others missed it:



As I said, it can be fixed with surgery later on. Hips and tummy too, if it looks like I suspect.
Good luck in becoming a pro. Can it be done? Probably. What are the odds? Astronomical. What are the benefits if you can make it? Selling supplements for a company, getting wooden trophies, a enlarged heart, hip and knee replacement and being a teeny idol like Justin Bieber, for the short while your young life lasts.

With that I'm out.
It’s crazy you say astronomical,my grandmother is a astrologist and I have the same placements as Lou ferrigo(mars in 1st),so I guess it is my destiny.
 
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It’s crazy you say astronomical,my grandmother is a astrologist and I have the same placements as Lou ferrigo(mars in 1st),so I guess it is my destiny.
You serious?
 
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Astrology, I see. :)
I can tell you about physics and what gravity has to do with tits.
 
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Absolutely I think it’s funny he said that because I come from a deeply religious family!
Astrology and religion don’t typically vibe. Jus sayin.
 
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Absolutely I think it’s funny he said that because I come from a deeply religious family!
In that case, you should consider growing your hair longer. Hair = strength, worked for Samson.
 
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Is this the same guy that said he’s gonna be on 600mg of test as trt?
 
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So how much will I gain? Answer the question as asked!
I asked the astrology hotline, they said: "Inconclusive", because the sky is too cloudy to see the constellations.
 
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If everything is right you’ll gain 5 to 8 lbs per tits which should fill them as you said above. 15 lbs cycle
That only happens if he totally isolates pecs. Moving his eyebrows on cycle too much, while lifting, may result in "eye gainz":

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Safest in terms of liver, but being on 500mg of test is still gonna skyrocket blood pressure, increase chance of heart attack/stroke, Etc. Not to mention it’s going to be way more suppressive than your typical 4-6 week oral cycle which most teenagers do.
Do you mean an oral one without a test base? Or u referring to andros
 
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From my experience, you will feel more aggression, but you will also have more control over it, unless you let your e2 get out of control (in my experience when my e2 went up my ability to control anger went down).

Gains are, like others said, diet dependent. Keep calories at maintenance, and you will slowly but surely lose fat and gain strength and some mass. Up your calories significantly and you will be surprised at your delts and traps starting to pop like they never have before. You don't get any leaner this way.
Run a sound training program. I like full body 3x week, even while on test. 3 main compound movements with 1 or 2 isolations for lagging bodyparts per workout.

9 weeks into my first blast of 500mg test /week (also masteron for the last 2 weeks, 400 and 200 mg respectively) and those are my findings. Went from 220 to 240 (100kg to 110kg) with small amount of fat gain.

I am not a whole lot older than you so I am not going to tell you whether you should do this, but just stay on top of things. Monitor your bloodwork and heart function. Yes, everyone is talking about impotence, not being able to get it up, infertility, but cardiovascular stuff is, imho, what should be worrying you the most.

In only 45 days my hematocrit shot up from 0.47 to 0.53+. Having high blood pressure and breathing like a suffocating fish is not fun. I thought this hematocrit, hemoglobin stuff only happens to older guys, but boy was I wrong. High hematocrit means that your blood is thick. That can cause stroke, heart attack but it also makes your heart work harder and will accelerate left ventricular hypertrophy. Make sure these numbers don't get out of control and you shouldn't have a stroke. Also, make sure you control e2 as high e2= bloat = elevated blood pressure (again, a nice additional strain on your heart).

Just saying that this ain't protein powder which at worst might make you fart more.
How do you control heart function?
 
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Loose skin, what I have read, will go away within 6 years if its not crazy much, and you are SMALLER than before during these 6 years.

You need to buy/pay for:
Blood work before, potentially during, and at least two times after your cycle.
Pay for the gear.
Equipment.
PCT.
Liver assist if taking orals.
Food.

Things to have an eye on:
Blood pressure, libido, estrogen, heart, etc.
Be careful if eating tons of carbs. If you want to go to "290" or whatever without insulin, your pancreas can take a big hit.
Check your hair, acne etc.
Count your macros
Avoid bloat
 
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Loose skin, what I have read, will go away within 6 years if its not crazy much, and you are SMALLER than before during these 6 years.

You need to buy/pay for:
Blood work before, potentially during, and at least two times after your cycle.
Pay for the gear.
Equipment.
PCT.
Liver assist if taking orals.
Food.

Things to have an eye on:
Blood pressure, libido, estrogen, heart, etc.
Be careful if eating tons of carbs. If you want to go to "290" or whatever without insulin, your pancreas can take a big hit.
Check your hair, acne etc.
Count your macros
Avoid bloat
Loose skin can definitely go away over time, it sitting protein/collagen in the body.
 
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Fructose, the worse source of carb. You could have some high fiber fruits in moderation.
Damn.... I always knew they contained sugar. But that it is bad for you, did not know that.

What fruits should I avoid?

Oranges?
Bananas?
Blueberries?
Raspberries?
Blackberries?
Pinapple?
Kiwi?
Apple?
Watermelon?
Clementines?
Pear?
Strawberries?

Which of these should I avoid?
 
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Damn.... I always knew they contained sugar. But that it is bad for you, did not know that.

What fruits should I avoid?

Oranges?
Bananas?
Blueberries?
Raspberries?
Blackberries?
Pinapple?
Kiwi?
Apple?
Watermelon?
Clementines?
Pear?
Strawberries?

Which of these should I avoid?
You could eat all of them. Just do it in moderation, and post workout.
 

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