How many started a cycle and stayed on?

YamahaC76

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I'm curious to know how many of the good members floating around here after their first cycle decided to just stay on and blast and cruise from that point onward. Definitely not judging here at all, because I personally think I do better in my own skin with at least 250mg weekly of test. Especially for my life, but everyone is different! I know some members on here feel fine with something entirely different.

I am just considering doing my own TRT at 250mg weekly and then finding an RX eventually in LA in the near future. I don't suspect this is super uncommon.
 
YamahaC76 said:
I'm curious to know how many of the good members floating around here after their first cycle decided to just stay on and blast and cruise from that point onward. Definitely not judging here at all, because I personally think I do better in my own skin with at least 250mg weekly of test. Especially for my life, but everyone is different! I know some members on here feel fine with something entirely different.

I am just considering doing my own TRT at 250mg weekly and then finding an RX eventually in LA in the near future. I don't suspect this is super uncommon.
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I don't fit in this category, but i tagged you in a great thread.
 
Guessing age and natural t levels play a part here.....

If your natural levels are low anyway then I think the incentive is far greater to stay on self administrated trt.

Personally I’m mid 30’s and would rather not need to go on trt yet, if my natural levels get back up to a sensible level after my next cycle then I wouldn’t, however, gotta be pragmatic and do what’s best for my body at that time.....not a decision to be made lightly regardless imo
 
YamahaC76 said:
I'm curious to know how many of the good members floating around here after their first cycle decided to just stay on and blast and cruise from that point onward. Definitely not judging here at all, because I personally think I do better in my own skin with at least 250mg weekly of test. Especially for my life, but everyone is different! I know some members on here feel fine with something entirely different.

I am just considering doing my own TRT at 250mg weekly and then finding an RX eventually in LA in the near future. I don't suspect this is super uncommon.
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Haven't yet. But, getting bloods done in October to see where I'm at
 
YamahaC76 said:
I'm curious to know how many of the good members floating around here after their first cycle decided to just stay on and blast and cruise from that point onward. Definitely not judging here at all, because I personally think I do better in my own skin with at least 250mg weekly of test. Especially for my life, but everyone is different! I know some members on here feel fine with something entirely different.

I am just considering doing my own TRT at 250mg weekly and then finding an RX eventually in LA in the near future. I don't suspect this is super uncommon.
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My first cycle was sustanon 250 1cc a week 10 weeks. Loved it. This was in 2010... Been blasting and cruising since with a year or two off
 
Im 25 and i love the feeling of being on cycle. Dont mind the injections particularly *at least sub q ones*. That said i know the health negatives are far too risky for me to blast and cruise right now. I suspect my heart wants some time off exogenous hormones and regardless of what my brain is telling me i want.
 
My opinion. I’d stay off it as long as possible, ALWAYS GET LABS. I though my test was low at 35 years old, and I had it checked and it was 840! However, that gave me the green light to stop running 8 week or less short estered cycles and orals, and start running 12-16 week monster stacked cycles, which brought my test to under 300 by 38. But I was ALWAYS willing to take that risk knowing I was ok with an injection at least weekly the rest of my life by 40. There’s two things that put my mind at ease:
1. TRT will not shorten my life span or kill me prematurely. Modern medicine has given us enough resources to keep blood pressure, lipids, clot factors and prostate in check for life. And even if it did kill me 5 years earlier, my quality of life is unmatched on TRT and well worth the trade off.
2. There will always be means to get testosterone. Whether it’s buying Raws and home brewing my own to make make 10 years worth of test at a time, buying from UGLs, being prescribed by any doctor, or clinic, especially if I were to come off after 2 years on TRT, I would never recover and would be immediately put on hormone therapy...

And the best part is, say I had to come off hrt during zombie apocalypse, it’s not like I’ll die, I won’t want to bang my gf as much, probably need cialis when I do, and I will need more sleep than I get by on now, and possibly need more caffeine. That really about it.
 
I know a lot of other guys have done or are currently doing this they just don’t admit it but I’ll be completely honest on this. I did my first cycle when I was 19 no pct nothing just some test e and deca blew up quick then of course it all went away because I had no clue what I was doing. Second cycle I started when I was 26 after I got out the navy I’m now 28 and still on that “same cycle” I’ve taken two weeks off with no injections but typical I pin something every day or every other day. The only thing that has changed is I rotate compounds with test the only thing that I’ve been on the whole time. Some of the compounds I’ve used in that time have been test (every ester you can imagine and tne and suspension) tren ace and e, deca and npp, primo e, eq, mast prop. For orals I’ve ran d bol, t bol, winstrol, halo, anavar, Anadrol, superdrol, and proviron. Ai I’ve ran arimidex, aramason, and letro. And also just started every couple months for about 30 days running either Nolva or clomid while still on cycle. I started this around 185 and I’m now 230. I was around 210-220 but fatter before I dropped to 185 from a pain pill addiction. The reason I have chosen not to come off is because I love the feeling of being on. I know it’s not smart and I do everything as carefully as possible ie liver support and not running any one compound for too long or too high. Test is the only thing I’ve pushed the limit on going as high as about 2.5 grams a week give or take. I actually plan on coming off for what I’m telling myself will be at least one month hopefully two or three after I finish my current test, eq,primo, Winstrol cycle. I know others on this board have done the same as I know other people personally who are doing this or have done it for much longer than I currently am. I know it’s not smart so please save all the comments bashing me for it and also I wouldn’t recommend anyone do it this way I’d say either blast and cruise if your older or cycle if your a younger guy. I will say the gains in muscle have came to a stop the past 6 months or so but strength is still slowly climbing.
 
stud220 said:
I know a lot of other guys have done or are currently doing this they just don’t admit it but I’ll be completely honest on this. I did my first cycle when I was 19 no pct nothing just some test e and deca blew up quick then of course it all went away because I had no clue what I was doing. Second cycle I started when I was 26 after I got out the navy I’m now 28 and still on that “same cycle” I’ve taken two weeks off with no injections but typical I pin something every day or every other day. The only thing that has changed is I rotate compounds with test the only thing that I’ve been on the whole time. Some of the compounds I’ve used in that time have been test (every ester you can imagine and tne and suspension) tren ace and e, deca and npp, primo e, eq, mast prop. For orals I’ve ran d bol, t bol, winstrol, halo, anavar, Anadrol, superdrol, and proviron. Ai I’ve ran arimidex, aramason, and letro. And also just started every couple months for about 30 days running either Nolva or clomid while still on cycle. I started this around 185 and I’m now 230. I was around 210-220 but fatter before I dropped to 185 from a pain pill addiction. The reason I have chosen not to come off is because I love the feeling of being on. I know it’s not smart and I do everything as carefully as possible ie liver support and not running any one compound for too long or too high. Test is the only thing I’ve pushed the limit on going as high as about 2.5 grams a week give or take. I actually plan on coming off for what I’m telling myself will be at least one month hopefully two or three after I finish my current test, eq,primo, Winstrol cycle. I know others on this board have done the same as I know other people personally who are doing this or have done it for much longer than I currently am. I know it’s not smart so please save all the comments bashing me for it and also I wouldn’t recommend anyone do it this way I’d say either blast and cruise if your older or cycle if your a younger guy. I will say the gains in muscle have came to a stop the past 6 months or so but strength is still slowly climbing.
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Thas pretty dang intense. I would never do that to myself unless i seriously wanted to be a pro bb.
 
stud220 said:
I know a lot of other guys have done or are currently doing this they just don’t admit it but I’ll be completely honest on this. I did my first cycle when I was 19 no pct nothing just some test e and deca blew up quick then of course it all went away because I had no clue what I was doing. Second cycle I started when I was 26 after I got out the navy I’m now 28 and still on that “same cycle” I’ve taken two weeks off with no injections but typical I pin something every day or every other day. The only thing that has changed is I rotate compounds with test the only thing that I’ve been on the whole time. Some of the compounds I’ve used in that time have been test (every ester you can imagine and tne and suspension) tren ace and e, deca and npp, primo e, eq, mast prop. For orals I’ve ran d bol, t bol, winstrol, halo, anavar, Anadrol, superdrol, and proviron. Ai I’ve ran arimidex, aramason, and letro. And also just started every couple months for about 30 days running either Nolva or clomid while still on cycle. I started this around 185 and I’m now 230. I was around 210-220 but fatter before I dropped to 185 from a pain pill addiction. The reason I have chosen not to come off is because I love the feeling of being on. I know it’s not smart and I do everything as carefully as possible ie liver support and not running any one compound for too long or too high. Test is the only thing I’ve pushed the limit on going as high as about 2.5 grams a week give or take. I actually plan on coming off for what I’m telling myself will be at least one month hopefully two or three after I finish my current test, eq,primo, Winstrol cycle. I know others on this board have done the same as I know other people personally who are doing this or have done it for much longer than I currently am. I know it’s not smart so please save all the comments bashing me for it and also I wouldn’t recommend anyone do it this way I’d say either blast and cruise if your older or cycle if your a younger guy. I will say the gains in muscle have came to a stop the past 6 months or so but strength is still slowly climbing.
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No bashing at all, bro.

However, why come off? With your duration and doses, why not just get on legit therapy and blast and cruise. Recovery of natural test is pretty unlikely I’m betting..
At least then you can get labs and see if you are a ticking time bomb for blood clots, etc..
But the 2.5 grams is over twice what I’ve ever attempted (in total gear) in 10 years. That’s a load of test.
 
It's always in the back of my head...I've been off 2 weeks right now and every day I think I'll just go back to 200ish per week. But I'd hate to be in a situation where I was unable to get my try whether it be $$ issues or whatever. I've got a family and theres no way I could cut into their needs to feed my hormones. I've thought exactly what mathersby mentioned above - get some raw and stock up on 10 years worth. You could always do the same thing 5 years from now etc. Right now that's the only way I'd want to do that. I have this fear of getting to some giant magical ripped up 280 lbs or something and then test is unavailable and I go back to 190 lol.
 
YamahaC76 said:
I'm curious to know how many of the good members floating around here after their first cycle decided to just stay on and blast and cruise from that point onward. Definitely not judging here at all, because I personally think I do better in my own skin with at least 250mg weekly of test. Especially for my life, but everyone is different! I know some members on here feel fine with something entirely different.

I am just considering doing my own TRT at 250mg weekly and then finding an RX eventually in LA in the near future. I don't suspect this is super uncommon.
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Honestly for me I can’t say that I ever stayed on my first cycle because back in 2011 I started with prohormones.. always did the standard 4- 6 weeks on then 4 week pct time off etc.. a few years later I remember I had done two physique shows at that point and would feel tired afterwards and went for blood work and then boom my first experience with injectable test was actually dr prescribed not even UGL.. so it made sense to always be at optimal test levels hence cruising. The whole cycling **** you will eventually lose most of not all your gains because your natty test levels will get lower and lower with time at least trt can keep you around 1000 or a little higher if you prefer.. so yeah I decided to stay on but I actually came off last year and recovered fine so I do come off even trt every year just for health reasons and natty levels detox etc.. sorry to ramble lol
 
bradleyt1 said:
Honestly for me I can’t say that I ever stayed on my first cycle because back in 2011 I started with prohormones.. always did the standard 4- 6 weeks on then 4 week pct time off etc.. a few years later I remember I had done two physique shows at that point and would feel tired afterwards and went for blood work and then boom my first experience with injectable test was actually dr prescribed not even UGL.. so it made sense to always be at optimal test levels hence cruising. The whole cycling **** you will eventually lose most of not all your gains because your natty test levels will get lower and lower with time at least trt can keep you around 1000 or a little higher if you prefer.. so yeah I decided to stay on but I actually came off last year and recovered fine so I do come off even trt every year just for health reasons and natty levels detox etc.. sorry to ramble lol
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Not at all man, thank you, no need to be sorry! So you were on TRT for X amount of time, and recovered fine? I just got my bloods back today and I'm only 4 weeks since my last pin. I used HCG on cycle with the exception of 2 months. (5 month cycle) and my LH and FSH is 2.2 and 2.1. Estrogen is below normal, so low. And prolactin is fine. RBC is just outside normal range at high however. So I need to donate blood. but total test serum is 396 so far! I actually feel better. But the gain train is definitely grinder to a halt.
 
bigbeaph said:
It's always in the back of my head...I've been off 2 weeks right now and every day I think I'll just go back to 200ish per week. But I'd hate to be in a situation where I was unable to get my try whether it be $$ issues or whatever. I've got a family and theres no way I could cut into their needs to feed my hormones. I've thought exactly what mathersby mentioned above - get some raw and stock up on 10 years worth. You could always do the same thing 5 years from now etc. Right now that's the only way I'd want to do that. I have this fear of getting to some giant magical ripped up 280 lbs or something and then test is unavailable and I go back to 190 lol.
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Total cost of UGL(I’ve always like Dragon or Geneza) Test E @250mg/week is $336 for 2 years. I’ve had blood work verify these labs every time I run them my test is between 1200-1400 @250mg/week. They will most likely always be available and have been around well over a decade. Most good foreign sites will sell them 10 at a time discounted to about $336 or so. That’s 250/week for 100 weeks.
 
That’s a state tax return amount that’ll make you 10 years right there. I’ll probably end up under a doctors care before I actually end up homebrewing.
 
i started my first testosterone cycle at 500mg a week sustanon. i ****ing loved it, but not just for the gains. i definitley had low T, because the mood, sex drive , and recovery was just amazing and something i hadnt felt it forever. i was planning to do a 10 week cycle. then it became 12 weeks. then 15 weeks. then i eventually after thinking alot about it, decided to blast and cruise and just drop the test down to 250mg. and im happy i did. for quality of life. not even the gains.
 
Matthersby said:
My opinion. I’d stay off it as long as possible, ALWAYS GET LABS. I though my test was low at 35 years old, and I had it checked and it was 840! However, that gave me the green light to stop running 8 week or less short estered cycles and orals, and start running 12-16 week monster stacked cycles, which brought my test to under 300 by 38. But I was ALWAYS willing to take that risk knowing I was ok with an injection at least weekly the rest of my life by 40. There’s two things that put my mind at ease:
1. TRT will not shorten my life span or kill me prematurely. Modern medicine has given us enough resources to keep blood pressure, lipids, clot factors and prostate in check for life. And even if it did kill me 5 years earlier, my quality of life is unmatched on TRT and well worth the trade off.
2. There will always be means to get testosterone. Whether it’s buying Raws and home brewing my own to make make 10 years worth of test at a time, buying from UGLs, being prescribed by any doctor, or clinic, especially if I were to come off after 2 years on TRT, I would never recover and would be immediately put on hormone therapy...

And the best part is, say I had to come off hrt during zombie apocalypse, it’s not like I’ll die, I won’t want to bang my gf as much, probably need cialis when I do, and I will need more sleep than I get by on now, and possibly need more caffeine. That really about it.
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Well said.
 
warriorscode8 said:
i started my first testosterone cycle at 500mg a week sustanon. i ****ing loved it, but not just for the gains. i definitley had low T, because the mood, sex drive , and recovery was just amazing and something i hadnt felt it forever. i was planning to do a 10 week cycle. then it became 12 weeks. then 15 weeks. then i eventually after thinking alot about it, decided to blast and cruise and just drop the test down to 250mg. and im happy i did. for quality of life. not even the gains.
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Definitely see why you made the choice brother. I see this in my future as well, and I'm happy about it. Everything you said is why I stayed on for so long.
 
warriorscode8 said:
i started my first testosterone cycle at 500mg a week sustanon. i ****ing loved it, but not just for the gains. i definitley had low T, because the mood, sex drive , and recovery was just amazing and something i hadnt felt it forever. i was planning to do a 10 week cycle. then it became 12 weeks. then 15 weeks. then i eventually after thinking alot about it, decided to blast and cruise and just drop the test down to 250mg. and im happy i did. for quality of life. not even the gains.
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THIS!!! I’m pretty much doing the same thing, or at least I plan on. I started first ever cycle (500 test ew, 50mg Winny ed) 2 months ago with plans to go to September then PCT. Well, now that it’s coming up, I really don’t want to!!! I’m 41 years old and I feel (after starting) that I was low test, because my quality of life is now so much improved. No naps, better mood and positive attitude. And I’m recently divorced so yeah, the dating (and sex) life is way improved. So dropping down to TRT is really on my mind
 
yeah guys. i would take test now with or without the muscle gains. my life is just SO much better with it....getting extra juicy was the initial goal, but test is SOOO much more than that- and now the getting jacked part is just an awesome side efffect! lol
 
medinacirilo said:
THIS!!! I’m pretty much doing the same thing, or at least I plan on. I started first ever cycle (500 test ew, 50mg Winny ed) 2 months ago with plans to go to September then PCT. Well, now that it’s coming up, I really don’t want to!!! I’m 41 years old and I feel (after starting) that I was low test, because my quality of life is now so much improved. No naps, better mood and positive attitude. And I’m recently divorced so yeah, the dating (and sex) life is way improved. So dropping down to TRT is really on my mind
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Ya, I came off 2017 just to see if I’d recover whatsoever. I was single at the time and didn’t have much to lose. Wasn’t training due to an injury. So when I met my gf in October, she only knew me how I was at the time. I told her I’m usually a machine, I go nonstop, never get sick, always train, etc. I don’t know if she just didn’t believe me but she hadn’t seen that me yet. When I got back on in March, I started with propionate and slowly brought the Enanthate up over a month. She said end of week 1, I was exactly how I said I was and I’ve been like that ever since. It’s just night and day difference and I stay @200, after this next blast, I may even just drop down to 150.
 
Matthersby said:
Ya, I came off 2017 just to see if I’d recover whatsoever. I was single at the time and didn’t have much to lose. Wasn’t training due to an injury. So when I met my gf in October, she only knew me how I was at the time. I told her I’m usually a machine, I go nonstop, never get sick, always train, etc. I don’t know if she just didn’t believe me but she hadn’t seen that me yet. When I got back on in March, I started with propionate and slowly brought the Enanthate up over a month. She said end of week 1, I was exactly how I said I was and I’ve been like that ever since. It’s just night and day difference and I stay @200, after this next blast, I may even just drop down to 150.
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So you hover on 200mg of Test E per week?
 
YamahaC76 said:
So you hover on 200mg of Test E per week?
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Yea. Ever since March 1st. Kicked it off with 500, and last month I bumped to 350 for a month, but almost always just 200. After next year is over I’ll drop to a legit TRT dose of 100-150 and get nice n healthy before I blast again.
 
Matthersby said:
Total cost of UGL(I’ve always like Dragon or Geneza) Test E @250mg/week is $336 for 2 years. I’ve had blood work verify these labs every time I run them my test is between 1200-1400 @250mg/week. They will most likely always be available and have been around well over a decade. Most good foreign sites will sell them 10 at a time discounted to about $336 or so. That’s 250/week for 100 weeks.
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I looked at a few of my sources and you are right. This is beyond cheap and the route I am going to take.

I have a question and would like some opinions. The sources I use have Dragon Pharma and Para Pharma in bulk. How are these oils? Aren't they considered EU UGL?

I do have access to SP Laboratory gear, which is my preferred, but it's not sold in bulk. So, I would be looking at $449 for 10 vials versus 340-360.

How long does test last for, best use by date?
 
AntM1564 said:
I looked at a few of my sources and you are right. This is beyond cheap and the route I am going to take.

I have a question and would like some opinions. The sources I use have Dragon Pharma and Para Pharma in bulk. How are these oils? Aren't they considered EU UGL?

I do have access to SP Laboratory gear, which is my preferred, but it's not sold in bulk. So, I would be looking at $449 for 10 vials versus 340-360.

How long does test last for, best use by date?
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Bump on the section in bold.
 
Better suited for PM’s due to board rules. But personally Dragon hasn’t let me down and I’ve used orals and oils from them back to 2013
 
warriorscode8 said:
i started my first testosterone cycle at 500mg a week sustanon. i ****ing loved it, but not just for the gains. i definitley had low T, because the mood, sex drive , and recovery was just amazing and something i hadnt felt it forever. i was planning to do a 10 week cycle. then it became 12 weeks. then 15 weeks. then i eventually after thinking alot about it, decided to blast and cruise and just drop the test down to 250mg. and im happy i did. for quality of life. not even the gains.
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Same for me. That's when I found out I must have had low T. I only did 250mg test a week and finally felt like a "man" lmao.

It just finally leveled the playing field because before test, I couldn't gain a pound and that's taking every non hormonal product
 
I had to start TRT at 21 and my doctor said that I'd never been able to come off if I want to maintain a healthy sex drive and energy levels(My HPTA system never functioned correctly from early adolescence). This was before I knew about bodybuilding or anything like that, I was on my TRT for a little over a year and then ran my first super-physiological cycle. I'm back on TRT now and plan on running my next blast sometime around May or June of next year. Since I am within my genetic limit I'm mostly going to stay at TRT doses on my cruises think (120-160). Once I have a FFMI of 24 or so my cruise doses will be closer to 250. Long term I want to see if I can get my doctor to switch me over to Test-U, going forward in this long life I'd like to be able to only inject every other week so that it falls into the background of things to worry about.

Will be interesting to reply to a thread like this if 50 years and be like, been on 5 decades bitch! Lmao.
 
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