How long do you break between PH/PS cycles?

time between PS/PH cycles

  • 2 weeks

    Votes: 13 6.7%

  • 1 month

    Votes: 46 23.7%

  • 2 months

    Votes: 83 42.8%

  • other

    Votes: 52 26.8%
  • Total voters
    194
partyman43

partyman43

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Just interested in knowing the different amounts of time. I usually take 2 months off(depending on cycle length), but it varies. Let me know what has worked best for you.:head:
 
Good thread.After my first ph i planned on waiting 3 months as most say to do(1m ph,1m pct,2m clean)I talked to a guy that works at a sup store and he said you could sart another cycle the day after pct.So i started another 6 weeks after previous ph.The second didn't do anything but give me leg cramps in the tear drop after leg day.The second was a superdrol/pheraplex combo,the first was mass tabs,the mass tabs were fun,the second sucked.A few guys at my gym and the guys at the store say most love the sup/phera combo.Bottom line,i started too early after last cycle,got the negatives with no positives,i will always do time on ph+pct=time off from now on.I was told receptors had not recharged yet.
 
Between 3-6 months.

Then again, I'm a beer snob and can't escape the sweet delicious deliciousness of it. Which means longer breaks between cycles.
 
The question isn't if you should take breaks, but how long you take them for. I have only run 1 actual PA cycle so far and I will be running a PH cycle next. My last PA cycle was cut short, due to sickness, at 6 weeks(was suppose to be 8 weeks) so I am trying my best to hold off for 6 weeks. Sometimes the excitement and anticipation can get to ya...HA! I didn't clarify whether or not your cycle included post cycle therapy, but IMO you should always do some sort of PCT for any PH/PS cycle, so how long of a break after PCT.
 
Well this thread is going no where.I guess it's too hard of a question.How long of a break?:think:what the hell does that mean?I have properly ran ph's many times,but how long of a break do i take?:think:
 
relax brother..... I was clarifying what you said about your PCT(good point). I just wanted the public to recognize PCT as part of a PA/PH cycle! Ideally the time off between cycles should be as long as the cycle..... right. I'm far from an expert; thus why I asked the question.
 
partyman43 said:
relax brother..... I was clarifying what you said about your post cycle therapy(good point). I just wanted the public to recognize post cycle therapy as part of a PA/PH cycle! Ideally the time off between cycles should be as long as the cycle..... right. I'm far from an expert; thus why I asked the question.
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if you are referring to me,and i think you are,you might want to reread my post's.I started off with good thread.I think you thought i was someone else.I thought about starting a thread like this cause of the guys at my sup store saying to only wait 4 weeks.When i waited 6 weeks(2 weeks after post cycle therapy) all i got were nagative sides.Yet 2 guys say 1 month(post cycle therapy then go back on ph)I seen a guy before say his results are less dramatic if he doesn't wait 2 months after post cycle therapy.So i wanted to see if others have same experience as me,or if they're with the guys at sup store.Such a simple question,in the right section,yet this thread has gone no where,I'm on your side partyman,as i said reread post and take note of who said what.
 
Got u brother. I can't understand what is going on here. Time off between cycles is almost as important as the cycle, post cycle or training itself. Honestly... I have been know to get impatient when it comes to starting times with cycles. Not PH/PS, but others...... Thanks for the input so far everybody. I'm sure people will post!
 
Cool,i was a little lost too,cycle length does include post cycle therapy as well.At the same time,the day you stop taking the ph is the day your "break" begins.But i see you said after cycle,but then some say cycle as the actual anabolic use,I think you and i were not reading correctly on an already confusing matter.I'm ready to see some post though,thats where my sacarstic remark came from.I'm impatient too,thats why when the guy told me to start another the day after post cycle therapy,i couldn't resist,especially since i had finished post cycle therapy 2 weeks ago.After last crap experience though,i will always wait as reccomened by most.
 
1 month cycle, 1 month pct, follow with 1 month off = 2 months off. I would not do this more than 2-3 total cycles then take 3-6 months off or cycles my be less effective and a waste of money.
 
pantera101 said:
Good thread.After my first ph i planned on waiting 3 months as most say to do(1m ph,1m post cycle therapy,2m clean)I talked to a guy that works at a sup store and he said you could sart another cycle the day after post cycle therapy.So i started another 6 weeks after previous ph.The second didn't do anything but give me leg cramps in the tear drop after leg day.The second was a superdrol/pheraplex combo,the first was mass tabs,the mass tabs were fun,the second sucked.A few guys at my gym and the guys at the store say most love the sup/phera combo.Bottom line,i started too early after last cycle,got the negatives with no positives,i will always do time on ph+post cycle therapy=time off from now on.I was told receptors had not recharged yet.
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Reason number 1,543 to avoid most supplement stores.

Glad you learned from it though. Your future cycles should be better and you may even want to revisit thad SD/PP combo after sufficient time off. Good luck.
 
I think they think you are asking how long you are supose to wait and not how long they actually wait.I guess they see responses and think it's answered or they think you should look it up.It probably would be pages of time on+pct=time off,unless theirs guys that work/shop at my local sup store on here.So i guess the question is answered,the people on this site are smart responsible ph/steroid users.
 
time on (post cycle therapy included) = time off

so if you are on a 4wk cycle, with 3wks of pct... thats a total of 7 wks and thats how long you take off before you start another cycle of ph/ps
thats how i do it
 
pantera101 said:
i told you partyman:)
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Aren't you smart...... It is being answered just fine. There are going to be all different answers.... I think that is obvious! This thread isn't based on who is responsible, or not responsible; its universal knowledge brother.

There are always improvements that can be made:thumbsup:

Thats alright your still young....HA,HA
 
partyman43 said:
Aren't you smart...... It is being answered just fine. There are going to be all different answers.... I think that is obvious! This thread isn't based on who is responsible, or not responsible; its universal knowledge brother.

There are always improvements that can be made:thumbsup:

Thats alright your still young....HA,HA
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I just said i told ya cause the next post after mine did what i said in previous post in more ways than one.It is being answered just fine by not being answered,and by responsible i mean they do time on+pct=time off.Thats what i always read off the internet,and we are on the internet.The only guys that are "eager"and wait less time than that are the guys at my local supplement store and the guys that follow directions on ph bottles(4-6weeks sometimes)I ofcourse did it once and learned from it.
 
pantera101 said:
I just said i told ya cause the next post after mine did what i said in previous post in more ways than one.It is being answered just fine by not being answered,and by responsible i mean they do time on+post cycle therapy=time off.Thats what i always read off the internet,and we are on the internet.The only guys that are "eager"and wait less time than that are the guys at my local supplement store and the guys that follow directions on ph bottles(4-6weeks sometimes)I ofcourse did it once and learned from it.
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Learning from mistakes is how ya learn..... sometimes



Heck....I'm 73 years old and still learning!:nutkick:
 
My experiences

So far I have run numerous supplement cycles over the course of my lifting years. I have gone from 8 weeks on and turning right around and doing another 8 weeks immediately following (with no break or PCT) and that was the real stuff. I have also done one 4 week cycle in a year and thats it. Now of course, I have gotten alot wiser and learned a little more and I usually take 1 to 2 months off with a good PCT.


Thanks for the responses everyone:thumbsup:
 
What if you pulse? does this change things any? ie: can time off be shorter than time on+pct= time off?
 
glipp said:
What if you pulse? does this change things any? ie: can time off be shorter than time on+post cycle therapy= time off?
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Good question glipp... I believe, whether you pulse or not, your total time (on cycle and PCT) should be the same as your time off[or close to it]. But I also think that it varies from person to person and cycle to cycle.

Thanks for thr reply:thumbsup:
 
I did PP in Nov, PCT Dec, started H-Drol mid Jan for 4 weeks and am pcting right now. I will wait longer between next time. The H-drol was meant to be a cut, but I felt so ****ty after 2 weeks that I upped my cals (felt very lethargic). I will also next time throw dermacrine in there I think. I wanted to try something non aromatizing standalone to see what I got out of it. That way, if I use dermacrine with this again, I will know how effective it is. I did see some decent dry gains though, maybe about 6 lbs. I wasn't expecting a lot. Going to stick with non hormonal for the next 3 months now. Then I am thinking that thur havoc, if it's still avail at that point, + dermacrine.
 
partyman43 said:
So far I have run numerous supplement cycles over the course of my lifting years. I have gone from 8 weeks on and turning right around and doing another 8 weeks immediately following (with no break or post cycle therapy) and that was the real stuff. I have also done one 4 week cycle in a year and thats it. Now of course, I have gotten alot wiser and learned a little more and I usually take 1 to 2 months off with a good post cycle therapy.


Thanks for the responses everyone:thumbsup:
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Ironic,the exact answer/s i was looking for,came from the thread starter.Thanks partyman.As for slow progress,always check ebay.I'm the only one who ever mentions that site.Their was a guy saying how h-drol is all sold out,i go to ebay and one guy has over 900,while others had it as well.Always check ebay,even before purchasing from a site,they have realy good deals sometimes.I only seen 2 bottles of havoc last ichecked,but that was a while ago.
 
pantera101 said:
Ironic,the exact answer/s i was looking for,came from the thread starter.Thanks partyman.As for slow progress,always check ebay.I'm the only one who ever mentions that site.Their was a guy saying how h-drol is all sold out,i go to ebay and one guy has over 900,while others had it as well.Always check ebay,even before purchasing from a site,they have realy good deals sometimes.I only seen 2 bottles of havoc last ichecked,but that was a while ago.
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Goog lookin out buddy!:thumbsup:
 
Nope, not sold out everywhere. Just picked up two more bottles, but this time going with Fast Action's H-Drol, they also had CEL H-Drol still in stock. From what I'm reading, stores should be restocking here very shortly according to CEL, it's been shipped.
 
RoidGracie said:
Nope, not sold out everywhere. Just picked up two more bottles, but this time going with Fast Action's H-Drol, they also had CEL H-Drol still in stock. From what I'm reading, stores should be restocking here very shortly according to CEL, it's been shipped.
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Let us know how fast action work outs for you.I have heard some bad things,but you know how that goes,i still have faith my new m-drol's will work.
 
I didn't see any bad things about Fast Action and I've read quite a bit, doesn't matter though, I've got a ton of the CEL's also. I'll have them both to compare at a later date.
 
ok, guess I'll have to search "crap and fast action", hopefully I don't come up with a thread on laxatives.
 
Wouldn't ya know it, the order came today and they shipped me the CEL H-Drol, when it specifically says Fast Action on the packing slip?? OH well, won't complain about that.
 
well i may be old school but time on usually equals time off after pct but then I'm not sure if your talking about an oral only cycle as they clear the system alot faster than say test e or cyp or eq
 
fcpcjc said:
time on (post cycle therapy included) = time off

so if you are on a 4wk cycle, with 3wks of pct... thats a total of 7 wks and thats how long you take off before you start another cycle of ph/ps
thats how i do it
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Me too but I'll add another couple weeks on top of what I get...
 
Thanks again for the replies. I use to give a month break after PCT, but now am giving it 2 to 3 months. I might only run 2 cycles a year from now in.
 
Just started my H-Drol run, will be 4 wks on, 4 wks pct and then at least 8 weeks off. Man, day 4 now, just for ****z and giggles measured arms, completely cold, over 16 1/2...kewl, I'm thinking I'll be over 17" cold, probably more at the end of this bad boy. I don't even lift hardly, but I'm going to lift all 4 weeks of this run.
 
Shittie. I finished a Bold/Epi/H-drol/Winadrol cycle on 3/5. Total of 14 weeks, and now i'll be running a 5 week pct meaning 18 weeks clean :frustrate Amazing recomp but still it's disheartening to know i "should" take 18 weeks in between this cycle and the next. I was going to take just 2 months off. If anyone here thinks 2 months off is long enough let me know. If not 18 months it is...biting down.
 
maynehood171 said:
You pulse it and it ends up being longer on cycle...shorter off cycle ;)
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I know some like to pulse,but I don't like the idea..I feel you should have the stuff in your system at a regular dose 24/7 for full affect.Before I ever read about pulsing I have always heard people stressing the importance of taking designers on off days when your body gets a chance to catch up and recover......pulsing goes against this.I might try it one day,but I haven't been convinced otherwise yet.It's nice to have that break so you don't have to foce feed yourself.Thats how I have always grown,even before designers.I'd get fed up, with no gains and start literally chocking the food down.....I mean literaly.Now with designers,I kind of take control and force a growth spurt.Then eat untill comftorably full every two hours on off time.
 
pantera101 said:
I know some like to pulse,but I don't like the idea..I feel you should have the stuff in your system at a regular dose 24/7 for full affect.Before I ever read about pulsing I have always heard people stressing the importance of taking designers on off days when your body gets a chance to catch up and recover......pulsing goes against this.I might try it one day,but I haven't been convinced otherwise yet.It's nice to have that break so you don't have to foce feed yourself.Thats how I have always grown,even before designers.I'd get fed up, with no gains and start literally chocking the food down.....I mean literaly.Now with designers,I kind of take control and force a growth spurt.Then eat untill comftorably full every two hours on off time.
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Yeah I understand your point...

I'm actually changing my pulsing protocol to the 3 on (consecutively) / 4 off as this will eliminate chances of DOMS for the first couple of days, allow for few days of constant exposure for gain and recovery, but 4 days to recover from dosing and whatnot...but I look to avoid mostly the short term and hopefully long term effects...so that's why I choose pulsing...but I know there are plenty of people against this idea but I do respect that...
 
...someone chime in and say, "calm down buddy, no. you don't need to wait 18 weeks for your next cycle. 2 months is more than enough if you ask me."
Then you know what would be great? If the person following this post writes, "i agree cuz i've been doing a 4 week rest period after pct for my past 6 runs and i've got the bloodwork to prove everything is still running as it should. Go for it man. hell just do a month off, you'll be fine trust me. I'll even wire you money for your bloodtest results."
...seriously all i want to hear is whether 18 weeks is unneccesarily long.
 
fogie13 said:
...someone chime in and say, "calm down buddy, no. you don't need to wait 18 weeks for your next cycle. 2 months is more than enough if you ask me."
Then you know what would be great? If the person following this post writes, "i agree cuz i've been doing a 4 week rest period after pct for my past 6 runs and i've got the bloodwork to prove everything is still running as it should. Go for it man. hell just do a month off, you'll be fine trust me. I'll even wire you money for your bloodtest results."
...seriously all i want to hear is whether 18 weeks is unneccesarily long.
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