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How is this for a first cycle?

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I am still in the early research phase of planning a cycle. I have been asking around at different message boards about good first cycles and I got reccomended this one. Tell me how this looks.


Test E weeks 1-13 500mg/week
EQ weeks 1-12 400mg/week
D-bol weeks 1-4 30mg everyday

pct weeks 15-18

day1 nolva40mg clomid 200mg
day 2-14 nolva 40mg clomid 100mg
day 15-28 nolva 20mg clomid 50mg


Now, I have a few questions about things I have been thinking about changing on this cycle.

1. What about changing the dbol for SD? Wich would be harsher dbol or SD? If I switched to SD I guess it would be weeks 1-3 at 20/20/30.

2. For pct I am probly gonna switch from nolva to toremifene, input?

3.for the injections would I mix the two sterois in the same syringe and do one injection per week?

Incase your wondering my stats are curently.

age: 24
weight: 220
height: 6'
bench: 300
deadlift: 415

I am thinking of doing this cycle sometime next year probly in the spring. I guess I feel I should do steroids because I can now bench 300 so I have a good base going.
 
well for question number 3:
ONE injection per week? You mean 4cc's at one time?
I'm guessing 250mg/ml on the test and 200mg/ml on the EQ?

If my above guess is correct than the answer is HELL NOOO>
there is no way you want to do a 4cc shot especially on a 1st cycle.

Questions 1-2 seem fine although I would stick with the dbol personal preference. but either is good I get results out of both dbol just kicks in quicker for me.
 
If you are doing one a week, that I imagine would not feel good whatsoever. Split it up into two, and I could see that being alright. Doses look fine, and switching from D-Bol to Sdrol would depend on your goals.
 
Yea that would be 4cc I was thinking of. Bad idea. So two injections of 2cc looks like it's the way to go then.

Using the SD is just because I stocked up on the stuff so I figure no use in buying d-bol if I have a perfectly good oral laying around.
 
i would go with the dbol since you would be running that for 4 weeks. sd is ran for three which leaves you about two weeks of still waiting for the test e to kick in (normally kicks in around week 4-5). i would go with the dbol for that reason. 40mg even sounds like a good dose. that was what i took on my first cycle, but if you respond good to lower doses then thats even better i guess.

toremifene definitely sounds like a good choice. i will be using that for the first time in my upcoming pct. i have heard nothing but good so far about it.

one shot a week sounds like too much gear at once. just split it in two.

it pretty much looks like youve done your research. good luck on your cycle.
 
well dbol and s-drol produce different results so yes both are good orals and if you have s-drol around then yes you could go with it. 2 shots 2cc's each much better
 
Keep it simple. Theres no reason to throw in a bunch of different compounds. Use 1, but no more than 2. If any problems should arise and you are running 3 different things, how are you gonna know what is causing it?
 
i think all three would be fine. it seems that both eq and dbol have minimal side effects, and test is just that...test. the dbol would be ran for 4 weeks which is before any of the other stuff kicks in. i doubt you would see problems from either the eq or test 4 weeks in unless it was something like dirty gear. if there is a problem within the first four weeks couldnt you assume its the dbol?
 
Im sure you could assume that, but wouldnt you want to know for sure?

Also, if you start out running 3 compounds for a first cycle, where are you gonna go from there?
 
Irish Cannon said:
i would go with the dbol since you would be running that for 4 weeks. superdrol is ran for three which leaves you about two weeks of still waiting for the test e to kick in (normally kicks in around week 4-5). i would go with the dbol for that reason.
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What if I was to do SD but start at week 3 instead of starting it right away with the test and EQ? That way I would be running the SD up till week 5 of my test and EQ injections.
 
idunk42 said:
Keep it simple. Theres no reason to throw in a bunch of different compounds. Use 1, but no more than 2. If any problems should arise and you are running 3 different things, how are you gonna know what is causing it?
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Well here is the deal, I was thinking about going with a very healthy dosage of test e (I was thinking of doing between 750mg-1g) and just keeping it a test only cycle like what people usally reccommend for a first. But I was asking around about first cycles at message boards and I guy reccommended me this one instead and the consensus seems to be that this cycle would be better than running just a higher dose test cycle. The guy who reccomended this said that it is the cycle he would run if he could go back and do his first cycle all over again.
I guess if I got bad sides I could go by the steroid profiles to determine what compound was causing the problems.
If I was to drop it down to just two compounds I would probly do the test and EQ and drop the oral. Thoughts?
So in sumary, I am going to try to maximize gains on the first cycle so just a 500mg test only cycle may be selling myself short a little bit.
 
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