How Fast Well Clomid Crash Estrogen?

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Does this happen within hours, days, weeks? I'm at the end of cycle and wondering how quickly I'll crash!
 
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Good call, I guess I meant to ask how quickly it will trick my body into thinking there isn't any?
Well, it will start to take effect almost immediately.
But how long it takes to make a noticable difference in Testosterone production varies, depending upon the individual, the cycle compounds used, length of cycle, etc ...

Is that what you were asking?
 
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If you were asking, "How long until I feel like my Estrogen is crashed?".
You won't. If anything, Clomid will make you feel the opposite of that.
 
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Well, it will start to take effect almost immediately.
But how long it takes to make a noticable difference in Testosterone production varies, depending upon the individual, the cycle compounds used, length of cycle, etc ...

Is that what you were asking?
I meant to ask how long it'll take before I feel like my estrogen crashed.
 
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Ok, so Arimidex is the one I need to worry about? How fast will that crash?
It depends mainly upon how much you're taking. ... As well as body chemistry, amount of Estrogen present, etc.

Are you Trying to crash it (serious question)?
 
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It depends mainly upon how much you're taking. ... As well as body chemistry, amount of Estrogen present, etc.

Are you Trying to crash it (serious question)?
Yes, I'm boating out and my nipples are swollen and tender.
 

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I’m slightly confused by the thread but if you are at the end of a cycle and only just experiencing estro sides then be careful with ai dosing.

clomid won’t do **** to lower estrogen but if you were taking testosterone and have now stopped it’s gonna lower anyway so the last thing you want to do is smash a load of ai and crash it.

as above nolva does a good job of managing gyno whilst also being effective in pct

what cycle did you run, what doses and when was last pin?
 
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I’m slightly confused by the thread but if you are at the end of a cycle and only just experiencing estro sides then be careful with ai dosing.

clomid won’t do **** to lower estrogen but if you were taking testosterone and have now stopped it’s gonna lower anyway so the last thing you want to do is smash a load of ai and crash it.

as above nolva does a good job of managing gyno whilst also being effective in pct

what cycle did you run, what doses and when was last pin?
i am confused by this thread also, seriously.
 
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I just don't want boobs and I'm definitely bloated/holding water weight
I’m slightly confused by the thread but if you are at the end of a cycle and only just experiencing estro sides then be careful with ai dosing.

clomid won’t do **** to lower estrogen but if you were taking testosterone and have now stopped it’s gonna lower anyway so the last thing you want to do is smash a load of ai and crash it.

as above nolva does a good job of managing gyno whilst also being effective in pct

what cycle did you run, what doses and when was last pin?
I was doing 125mg of Sust eod. I added 50mg of Anavar for a week, but had a lot of anxiety, so I stopped.

What Nolva dose would be best?
 
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I just don't want boobs and I'm definitely bloated/holding water weight


I was doing 125mg of Sust eod. I added 50mg of Anavar for a week, but had a lot of anxiety, so I stopped.

What Nolva dose would be best?
Sust EOD???
 

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Yessir, that's what I was told to do.
at this point I gotta ask who the **** told you to do this - coco the clown?

the whole point of sust is that it’s pinned less frequently (once a week at most but e10d is normal). It has long esters for that exact reason.

mans 294 iu of hcg a week??? Aside from being a ridiculous number to try and get that precise it’s normal dosing is 250 iu 2x a week (so 500 iu per week total).

unless you have nipple sensitivity or lumps forming I wouldn’t touch an ai. Holding water on test is common and it’ll naturally drop off through pct.

run nolva at 20mg per day for 2-3 weeks then 10mg per day for 2-3 weeks
 
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This is the recommendation to jab Sust eod: https://anabolicminds.com/community/threads/first-cycle.317594/post-6382217

I have been doing:
125mg Sust eod
84iu HCG eod (5,000iu in 30ml, jabbing 0.5ml eod)
15mg MK-677 4 days on 2 days off

The water retention is my main concern. The swollen/tender nipples aren't unbearable.
water retention is more likely from the MK and may not have anyhting to do with E levels... not to be a dik, but it really seems like whoever gave you advice as well as you yourself have no idea what is going on...
 
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water retention is more likely from the MK and may not have anyhting to do with E levels... not to be a dik, but it really seems like whoever gave you advice as well as you yourself have no idea what is going on...
True enough. I am not sure what is going on! lol
 
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True enough. I am not sure what is going on! lol
this would be a good time to stop the cycle and do some more learning before you make a big mistake and have a lifelong issue due to a silly error/misunderstanding
 
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this would be a good time to stop the cycle and do some more learning before you make a big mistake and have a lifelong issue due to a silly error/misunderstanding
Yeah, I am stopping the T. Will stick to just the MK and HCG for a month while I figure out the next cycle.
 
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Yeah, I am stopping the T. Will stick to just the MK and HCG for a month while I figure out the next cycle.
Like @booneman77 said ... The MK could very well be where the fluid is coming from.
 

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Well, I bought 10g of the stuff from science.bio, so I am gonna use it. lol
totally agree with @booneman77 that mk is much more likely to be the issue. It’s a well known side effect of mk.

the long ester in that sust is gonna make pct a bitch btw

if you have 10g or what I assume is powder how are you measuring a dose bro?
 
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totally agree with @booneman77 that mk is much more likely to be the issue. It’s a well known side effect of mk.

the long ester in that sust is gonna make pct a bitch btw

if you have 10g or what I assume is powder how are you measuring a dose bro?
When I ran MK the bloating was literally painful. between that and the lethargy I will never run it again. I hated both the way I looked and felt on it haha.
 
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When I ran MK the bloating was literally painful. between that and the lethargy I will never run it again. I hated both the way I looked and felt on it haha.
Yeah, my joints are sore and I'm always drained. Is that from the MK?
 
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When I ran MK the bloating was literally painful. between that and the lethargy I will never run it again. I hated both the way I looked and felt on it haha.
Wow.
That's why I haven't tried it yet.
I was concerned about the bloating.
 
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totally agree with @booneman77 that mk is much more likely to be the issue. It’s a well known side effect of mk.

the long ester in that sust is gonna make pct a bitch btw

if you have 10g or what I assume is powder how are you measuring a dose bro?
I have an analytical balance that measures to 0.1mg so it's actually quite simple to make caps!
 
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Maybe the answer is HGH? Expensive af tho! Anything that compares to MK without the bloating, hunger, and lethargy?
 

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When I ran MK the bloating was literally painful. between that and the lethargy I will never run it again. I hated both the way I looked and felt on it haha.
I hold 2-4lbs of water on it (literally add those within 2-3 days of starting it and they drop off when I stop like clockwork).

but I feel decent, my recovery is 👌 and it does wonders for my joints.
 

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I have an analytical balance that measures to 0.1mg so it's actually quite simple to make caps!
ok sound, have heard of guys trying to eyeball a dose from powder and was worried you were massively overdosing,

personally I buy in bulk and make into a 3 month supply of liquid a time to get dosing spot on (only need a 4 decimal place scale for that)
 
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Yeah, my joints are sore and I'm always drained. Is that from the MK?
The drained feeling yes (one of the major sides is often general grogginess and tired feeling - especially upon waking but for me and many others lasted 24/7)

Joints should feel better or the same tho... that shouldn’t be a side of mk or sust so I’d look elsewhere. Maybe just you’re working harder knowing you’re on cycle?
 
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ok sound, have heard of guys trying to eyeball a dose from powder and was worried you were massively overdosing,

personally I buy in bulk and make into a 3 month supply of liquid a time to get dosing spot on (only need a 4 decimal place scale for that)
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The drained feeling yes (one of the major sides is often general grogginess and tired feeling - especially upon waking but for me and many others lasted 24/7)

Joints should feel better or the same tho... that shouldn’t be a side of mk or sust so I’d look elsewhere. Maybe just you’re working harder knowing you’re on cycle?
It is mostly just my hands and feet. I am lifting heavier, but I don't think that's it.
 

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