How Distilled Water Clean Bulks. An FAQ for the carb sensative

I was reading up on some things and does anyone have thoughts on fenugreek in this situation? Seems like a pretty solid nutrient partitioning agent.

4-hydroxyisoleucine is an amino acid derivative that assists the pancreas in production of insulin. Studies have shown that adding fenugreek to your diet reduces fasting blood sugars and improves after-meal glucose tolerance significantly. 4-hydroxyisoleucine works by two separate mechanisms: It has a direct, stimulating effect on insulin production for those who wish to increase their glucose metabolism and helps to reduce glucose resistance and the uptake of glucose, thereby reducing overall blood glucose levels. Several studies with animals and with human cell cultures demonstrate this extract’s positive effect on reducing postmeal glucose levels—with little or no increase in blood insulin concentrations— a clear indictor of improved insulin sensitivity.

Several studies show that the free amino acid 4-hydroxyisoleucine plays a valuable role in insulin-promotion and glucose regulation. 4-hydroxyisoleucine stimulates insulin secretion, thereby limiting the extent to which blood glucose (the glycemic index) is elevated. Elevated blood glucose after meals leads to increased production of body fat. 4 hydroxyisoleucine promotes insulin secretion and inhibits the rise of blood glucose, thus helping to reduce body fat production. 4 -hydroxyisoleucine exhibits a specific effect on the islets of Langerhans in the pancreas. These cells are directly responsible for insulin production. Most significantly, the effect of 4-hydroxyisoleucine is glucose dependent. The higher the level of blood glucose, the greater the insulin-promoting response elicited by 4 hydroxyisoleucine. Thus 4-hydroxyisoleucine exhibits a significant regulating effect, which corresponds with the insulin needs of the body at any given time. This makes this compound “adaptogenic,” responding to the particular needs of the body at any given time.
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More fenugreek:

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Today,modern science has revealed that fenugreek helps to control cholesterol and regulate blood glucose. Fenugreek seed lowers overall serum cholesterol, and reduces triglycerides. In one human study, 2.5 grams of fenugreek per day for 3 months significantly reduced these cardiac risk factors. These activities are linked to a group of soluble fibers, most notably galactomannans. The galactomannans also possess fat-sequestering properties, binding directly to dietary fat and reducing its absorption into the body. If you consume fenugreek or its extract with a meal, some of the fat from that meal will be eliminated from your body, without producing weight gain.

The glucose regulating, anti-diabetic properties of fenugreek seed are linked to a novel free amino acid, 4 hydroxyisoleucine. This compound stimulates insulin secretion, thereby limiting the extent to which blood glucose is elevated. 4 hydroxyisoleucine promotes insulin secretion and inhibits the rise of blood glucose, thus helping to stabilize blood sugar and reduce body fat production. In one human study, 15 grams of fenugreek daily significantly reduced glucose levels after meals.

Today fenugreek shows value as a heart-healthy, anti-diabetic agent with potential for weight control due to its content of fat-sequestering galactomannans and a substance called 4-hydroxyisoleucine.

Germany’s Commission E recommends a daily dose of 6 grams of powdered seed, which is best taken soaked in water or juice and then drunk. Fenugreek supplements vary. Some are capsules of powdered seed, while others are more concentrated extracts are standardized to 4 hydroxyisoleucine.
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Bump. Below study doesnt specify the chromium type however not great results for us non-diabetic type.

Title: Effect of chromium supplementation on glucose metabolism and lipids: a systematic review of randomized controlled trials.
Author: Balk-E-M;Tatsioni-A;Lichtenstein-A-H;Lau-J;Pittas-A-G
Citation: Diabetes-Care. 2007 Aug; 30(8): 2154-63 R
Abstract: OBJECTIVE: A systematic review of the effect of chromium supplementation on glucose metabolism and lipid levels. RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS: A literature search was conducted in MEDLINE and the Commonwealth Agricultural Bureau. Eligible studies were English language randomized controlled trials of chromium supplement intake > or = 3 weeks, with > or = 10 participants receiving chromium. All trials with glucose metabolism outcomes and trials of individuals with diabetes or glucose intolerance for lipid outcomes were included. Meta-analyses were performed as appropriate. RESULTS: Forty-one studies met criteria, almost half of which were of poor quality. Among participants with type 2 diabetes, chromium supplementation improved glycosylated hemoglobin levels by -0.6% (95% CI -0.9 to -0.2) and fasting glucose by -1.0 mmol/l (-1.4 to -0.5) but not lipids. There was no benefit in individuals without diabetes. There were some indications of dose effect and differences among chromium formulations. Larger effects were more commonly observed in poor-quality studies. The evidence was limited by poor study quality, heterogeneity in methodology and results, and a lack of consensus on assessment of chromium status. CONCLUSIONS: No significant effect of chromium on lipid or glucose metabolism was found in people without diabetes. Chromium supplementation significantly improved glycemia among patients with diabetes. However, future studies that address the limitations in the current evidence are needed before definitive claims can be made about the effect of chromium supplementation.
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defo want to try the 20g of creatine a day! can't wait to start my new bulk :D
 
Bumping an awesome thread!

Been taking 20g of creatine mono the last 3-4 weeks. my recovery is a lot better now. No sore chest for 4 days :) 2 days max i'd say!
 
Update

It's only been about a week or 10days, not real sure :think: but i've tweaked my lean bulking diet a touch and so far so great!!!!

I only have carbs 2 times a day. Post workout and post workout meal. Here's the example of what im doing around post workout

15min post workout (let my LG slin kick in)
50gr WMS ( I know I thought I'd never be using this again but what do ya know!)

Then about 15min later
50-75gr Whey & 50gr carbs (from ground oats)

Then about 30-45min later (depending on how hungry I am,lol)
10oz Chicken 1/2-3/4cup Brown Rice (dry)

Daiy Macros are about 400/175/150 (p/c/f)

On sundays I will eat a diet similar to what I orginally had layed out in my first post's. Carbs are at about 300 on these days as a mini carb load.

I will report back on how its going. Only complaints are im kinda lethargic from the no carbs and lower blood sugar. But Im up to 191lbs and stil on my last belt loop (same as Aug 1st!!!!) Granted it's a litte snugger but thats the water, I swear :lol:
 
Distilled water = do not drink. I didn't read every conversation in this blog, and I'm not sure some are drinking distilled water. But I will explain to you why. Anyone know why?
 
Ectofighter said:
Distilled water = do not drink. I didn't read every conversation in this blog, and I'm not sure some are drinking distilled water. But I will explain to you why. Anyone know why?
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Um :think: WTF are you talking about bro? This thread has nothing to do with drinking distilled water.
 
Ectofighter said:
Look at the topic of this thread......bro
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Yep. I made it so im 110% sure I know what the topic at hand is. Did you bother to read the first pages of the thread? I dont think so. Im talking about achiveing LBM while keeping fat to a minimum thru carb manipulation.

No where does it say to drink distilled water :fool2:
 
Distilled Water said:
Yep. I made it so im 110% sure I know what the topic at hand is. Did you bother to read the first pages of the thread? I dont think so. Im talking about achiveing LBM while keeping fat to a minimum thru carb manipulation.

No where does it say to drink distilled water :fool2:
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is distilled water your name?
 
lol, what you been smokin':toofunny:
 
Some carbs I want to add to this that have been working out awesome for me latley.

Ezekial bread, cereal and pasta!!!!

They're kind of pricey but i've been eating close to 200gr of carbs/day with these and am still leaning out and feeling great.

Typical day's diet @ 205+ with my 32" waist!!!!!!!!

Meal 1:
2 scoops ATW isolate
2 peices ezekiel bread with organic blueberry fruit spead

Meal 2:
10 egg whites
1/2 cup cin raisin ezekiel cereal w/ soy milk
1 cup brocoli
2 slices fat-free cheese

Meal 3:
8 oz extra lean turkey
3/4 cup ezekiel pasta
low-sodium/fat-free pasta sauce (names escaping me right now)
parm cheese to taste :)

Meal 4 (post workout)
2 scoops ATW isolate
*1 med sweet potato

Meal 5:
8oz chicken
*1 med sweet potato

Meal 6:
10-12oz lean ground beef
1/4 cup reduced fat-cheese
taco seasoning

Meal 7:
2 whole eggs
1 cup cottage cheese

*I mix splenda, 1 TBS honey, cinnamon, and cal free butter to sweet potato's

I'm still doing 10mg vanadyl sulfate before meals 1 and post workout. Thats the only supps im really taking right now. I was doing clen also but have been off that for about 10days now.

Also doing fish oil, multi and glutamine
 
i like glutamine but i only take about 6g. how much do you recommend. glutamine does make a difference. thank you
 
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