Hogg's IML Turkesterone log

[SBH]

In this log I'm going to see how the IML turkesterone does for retaining gains in between cycles. I'm old so I'll be on 100 mgs test cyp(trt) while off. If you younger bros try this do a pct. If you blast & cruise, nevermind.

I believe the leverage from pumps helps a bit with doing bigger lifts. By the time you do a warm-up set and pyramid up you hit some good lifts. Another reason I like this sup.

Yeah, I'm skipping leg day. I had a bit of a pull on my right calf on my last quad torture day(10 X 10 feet forward squats). I wanted to change leg day to Monday anyway. My training will be as follows:

Monday - leg day
Tuesday - chest & bis
Wednesday - cardio(usually 1 hour bike)
Thursday - Lats & tris
Friday - delts & mid back
Saturday - cardio walks sometimes

Pretty much the same except for changing leg day to Monday. I am going back to barbell squats in the rack.

 

[LeanEngineer]

In on this for sure!

 

[SBH]

I skipped leg day yesterday but went and did recombinant bike for a hour instead. Guess I'm sorta one day ahead this week.

The pumps and vascularity was crazy as usual with the turkesterone. The absortion is greatly increased when things are complexed with cyclodextrins. Some talk about the weight of the active but the absortion can be increased up to 3X. I think taking the 2cd one with my pre-workout which has dextrose in it actually enhances this.

I will find a way to take the second one on non-lifting days with some dextrose. Nice workout today.
Lats & bis:
Cybex pulldowns:
155 X10
175 X8
195 X6
Pullovers:
100 X10
100 X10
Straight arm pulldowns;
55 X10
55 X10
55 X10
Underhand grip pulldowns:
120 X10
135 X8
140 X6
Alternating curls:
30s X10 per arm
30s X10
30s X10
Alternating hammer curls:
40s X10 per arm
40s X8
Incline curls:
25s X10 G10
25s X10
Cybex preacher curls:
62.5 X10
62.5 X10
62.5 X10

 

[SBH]

Off topic but fas(funny as shat).

 

[LeanEngineer]

Off topic but fas(funny as shat).

Biden jokes never get old

 

[SBH]

I did my last workout of this week Thursday. Been adding in 1 cap IML Econtrol(25 mgs arimistane) in the AM.
Basically did a bit of a taper with the bottle rinse thing.

The reason(besides age) I'm keeping in the 100 mgs trt is the way my endogenous testosterone was destroyed by my post workout kratom use. You gotta remember I had 9 broken bones and a separated shoulder and neck in the wreck.

I don't use any kratom at this point and will see if this restores my endogenous testosterone a bit. This is kinda a pct with turkesterone to help preserve gains. I soon will be adding IML Ultra male into the mix and maybe some resveratrol.

Opioids stop the HTPA at the top of the loop. The hypothalamus doesn't sent the gnrh to the pituitary so no LH is released.
Anyway, here my last workout:
Delts & mid-back:
Cybex incline bench:
155 X5
155 X5
155 X5
Leaning lat raises:
25 X10,10 R&L
25 X10,10
Cybex lat raises:
80 X10,10 R&L
80 X10,10
80 X10,10
Cybex Reverse flies:
70 X10,10 R&L
70 X10,10
High rows:
110 X10
120 X8
130 X6
Shrugs:
145 X25 G25
195 X20 G20
245 X15 G15
Hoist crunch:
R: 165 X 33 G33
L: 165 X 33
M:165 X34

 

[SBH]

I changed leg day to Monday and got it in. I didn't get slapped by Will Smith .

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I have to ease back into freeweight squats in the rack but sfsg.
I think this kratom is gonna help a lot in slowing deloading(squat should actually be going up).
It's wild how you stop doing chest on Monday and all the benches are clear. Watch it be a pain in arse tomorrow.

I already started some resveratrol and an AI(Econtrol). Still have order the Ultra Male for GNRH help.

I dropped calf raises and am dialing them back next leg day due to the slight pull.

Leg day:
Squats:
135 X8
185 X5
205 X5
215 X5
220 X5
225 X5
Feet forward squats:
225 X5
225 X5
Straight leg deads:
135 X10
185 X8
235 X6
Seated leg curls:
75 X10
75 X10
75 X10
Seated leg ext:
130 X10
130 X10
130 X10
Standing calf raises:
Mid 200 X G30
in 200 X
Out 200 X

 

[LeanEngineer]

I changed leg day to Monday

Monday is international chest day you can't do legs that's a sin!

 

[SBH]

I was going to do 5X5 on the flat and then 3X5 on the Cybex bench but the Cybex stayed tied up and I did some hip abduction instead. I'm going to start doing those because it can help with the hip pain.
I will find a better way to put the hip abduction in. Thinking about just doing the flat and inching up the weight anyway. Really want to get my flat bench back.
Don't have to do bike the day after legs to deal with the SOMS or DOMS. The turkesterone is gold for that. Not much soreness at all.
Chest & tris
Flat bench pause:
135 X5
135 X5
135 X5
135 X5
135 X5
Cybex flies:
95 X10
95 X10
10" chest:
100 X10
100 X10
100 X10
Cybex tricep press;
110 X10
120 X8
130 X6
Cybex tri ext:
75 X10
75 X10
Rope push downs:
65 X10
65 X10
65 X10
Hip abduction:
30* X10
30 X10
30 X10
Hip adduction:
70* X 10
60 X10
60 X10
Torso rotation:
70 X 20,20 R&L G20
70 X20,20
70 X20,20

 

[SBH]

I guess that I needed that hip abduction. My inner thighs are sore and I kept it light.
I think the extra work on my hip muscles will help me in the squat rack.
Missed doing cardio yesterday because I was busy doing a lot of things. Back on track today

The vascularity was crazy doing biceps. I need to find some good lighting and get a pic.

Lats & bis:
Cybex pulldowns:
155 X10
175 X8
195 X6
Pullovers:
100 X10
100 X10
Straight arm pulldowns;
55 X10
55 X10
55 X10
Tmag Underhand cable rows:
120 X10
135 X8
150 X6
Alternating curls:
30s X 10per arm
30s X10
30s X10
Alternating hammer curls:
45s X6 per arm G6*
45s X6
Incline curls:
25s X10 G10
25s X10
Cybex preacher curls:
62.5 X10
62.5 X10
62.5 X10

 

[LeanEngineer]

The vascularity was crazy doing biceps. I need to find some good lighting and get a pic.

It's all about finding the right lighting! In my old gym I always had to stand in this one spot under the light for the best update photos

 

[SBH]

It's all about finding the right lighting! In my old gym I always had to stand in this one spot under the light for the best update photos

Yeah my old gym didn't have the heavy lighting they have where I train now. Might have to find dark spot and get someone else to take the pic.

 

[SBH]

Still holding steady and not deloading. I added in the Ultra Male today. Would be nice to keep steady going thru this and then take the weights up on next cycle.

Delts & mid-back:
Cybex incline bench:
155 X5
155 X5
155 X5
Leaning lat raises:
25 X 10,10 R&L
25 X10,10
Cybex lat raises:
80 X 10,10R&L
80 X10,10
80 X10,10
Cybex Reverse flies:
70 X 10,10R&L
70 X10,10
High rows:
110 X10
120 X8
130 X6
Shrugs:
145 X25 G25
195 X 20 G20
245 X 15 G15
Hoist crunch:
R: 165 X 33 G33
L: 165 X 33
M:165 X34

 

[SBH]

International chest day got me. Strength is holding steady. I'm loving the pumps from turkesterone and AAKG also.

I'm going do the hip abduction work with crazy quad stretch 10X10 feet forward squats eow. Want to see how that helps the squats in the rack.

Chest & tris
Flat bench pause:
140 X5
140 X5
140 X5
140 X5
140 X5
Cybex bench:
225 X5
225 X5
225 X5
Cybex flies:
95 X10
95 X10
Cybex tricep press;
110 X10
120 X8
130 X6
Cybex tri ext:
75 X10
75 X10
Rope push downs:
65 X10
65 X10
65 X10
Torso rotation:
70 X 20,20 R&L G20
70 X20,20
70 X20,20

 

[LeanEngineer]

International chest day got me. Strength is holding steady.

Only good thing about Mondays is international chest day Glad you're strength is holding steady!

 

[SBH]

I didn't do the 10 X 10 with feet forward squats because of wanting to keep the hip abduction in.
I think this will help me on my freeweight squats more
Feet forward squats:
135 X10
185*X10
235 X5
235 X5
235 X5
235 X5
235 X5
Hip adduction:
60 X10
55 X10 careful now
55 X10
Hip abduction:
40 X10
40 X10
40 X10

 

[SBH]

Only good thing about Mondays is international chest day Glad you're strength is holding steady!

Yeah, it will probably stay chest day The turkesterone is amazing for keeping strength between cycles. Hope I start the next without deloading any. That would be awesome.

 

[SBH]

I wanted to start doing farmer carries yesterday with the trap bar but my butt was sore. It wasn't from "they" activity the hip abduction caused it .
Ended up doing back & bis. I love this workout when taking turkesterone because of pumps and cool vascularity.

I used to have two veins that made a big cross on my right bicep and the left had a bunch of squiggly veins that went everywhere.(see the political paradigm?)

When I was in the coma, after the wreck, some asshat didn't change the veins on the glucose bottle and collapsed my veins.
Now I'm starting to get them back but they're squiggly like the left arm.(see the Mitt Romney paradigm?)

Ok enough jokes. Here's the workout:
Lats & bis:
Cybex pulldowns:
155* X10
175 X8
195 X6
Pullovers:
100 X10
100 X10
Straight arm pulldowns;
55 X10
55 X10
55 X10
Underhand cable rows:
120 X10 (Did them with a bar this time)
135 X8 Upper lats were popping
150 X6
Alternating curls:
30s X10 per arm
30s X10
30s X10
Alternating hammer curls:
45s X7 per arm G7*
45s X7
Incline curls:
25s* X10 G10
25s X10
Cybex preacher curls:
62.5 X10
62.5 X10
62.5 X10

 

[SBH]

I did the upright bike with varying intensity for an hour today. Followed that with 6 laps around the gym. I'll figure out how to add in the farmer carries at some point.
I think that will help my right shoulder some.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I'll figure out how to add in the farmer carries at some point.

Farmer carries wear me out for sure! Traps are always shot afterwards!

 

[SBH]

Farmer carries wear me out for sure! Traps are always shot afterwards!

Yeah, they hit traps for sure. They hit stabilizers and work the core also. I like to do this one where I walk all the way around the gym one way and then go the other for a second lap.

 

[SBH]

Good delt workout today. I put Smith deads in because I want to get my deadlift power back. After I get them up on the Smith, I'll change to the dead rack and then the floor.

Still reloading a bit while off. This IML turkesterone is amazing. I might have to work this into a cycle.

Delts
Cybex incline bench:
160 X5
160 X5
160 X5
Leaning lat raises:
25 X10,10 R&L
25 X10,10
Cybex lat raises:
85 X10,10 R&L
85 X10,10
85 X10,10
Cybex Reverse flies:
70 X10,10 R&L
70 X10,10
Facepulls:
60 X10
60 X10
60 X10
Smith deads:
145 X10
195 X8
245 X6
Hoist crunch:
R: 165 X33 G33
L: 165 X 33
M:165 X34

 

[LeanEngineer]

I put Smith deads in because I want to get my deadlift power back

I've actually never done Smith machine deadlifts but I bet it definitely adds a nice compound controlled movement for legs and back.

 

[SBH]

I've actually never done Smith machine deadlifts but I bet it definitely adds a nice compound controlled movement for legs and back.

They're pretty close to regular deads. They don't make me hurt in the hips tho. I've taken deads out and put them back in several times since the broken hips in the wreck.

 

[LeanEngineer]

They don't make me hurt in the hips tho.

Yea they probably take a lot of the pressure off the hips which definitely would help your case and many other people's cases.

 

[SBH]

We had a tree fall on the house and are staying at a hotel for awhile. Fortunately it's closer to the gym than the house is.

I might miss one here and there while this is going on. I did get to do international chest day though. Still adding lbs here and there. It's quite amazing while basically off.
I'm sold on the complexed turkesterone being better already. Highly tempted to do a 4-andro and androsterone cycle with the next bottle and see how that works.

I feel like the turkesterone is helping with the torn pec work. It still looks a bit funky but I can feel muscle strands filling it in here and there.
Chest & tris
Flat bench pause:
145 X5
145 X5
145 X5
145 X5
145 X5
Cybex bench:
225 X5
225 X5
225 X5
Cybex flies:
100 X10
100 X10
Cybex tricep press;
115 X10
125 X8
135 X6
Cybex tri ext:
75 X10
75 X10
Rope push downs:
65 X10
65 X10
65 X10
Torso rotation:
70 X20,20 R&L G20
70 X20,20
70 X20,20

 

[SBH]

We have a Snap Fitness right across from the hotel we're staying in while they work on the house.
I went over there and did a leg day. I did the leg press just because I wanted to play with the cool machine. I'll hit them in the rack next time. This gym has the kinda squat rack I like. You don't have to take steps back. Oh well. I didn't skip leg

I went light and just stretched the hamstrings with the SLDs. Going to play around with heavier deads in the Smith tomorrow.
Played it safe with the Seated calf raises also. I could feel it a little where I had the pull so I'll just slowly ease back into the heavier stuff. They didn't have a Standing version. I feel safer with those.

Leg press feet high:
275 X10
315 X10
Regular:
365 X10
385 X8
405 X6
Straight leg deads:
135 X10
135 X 10
Leg ext:
130 X10
130 X10
130 X10
Seated leg curls:
75 X10
75 X10
75 X10
Seated calf raises:
Mid125 X20 G25 Mid
In 115 X25 in
Out 115 X 25 out
This was wed

 

[SBH]

I think I'm going to keep playing with this natural stuff for awhile. Kinda stuck here for awhile anyway.
This 5X5 stuff is gold and I'm going to keep bumping the weights up slowly before hitting the prohormones again.

Went to my regular gym today and did the deads on the Cybex Smith machine. The one across the street is too high and I want get the best ROM I can get.

I think the fenugreek in the Ultra Male is fixing the endogenous test shutdown caused by the opioids. Still on the trt but I'll be 65 on my next birthday anyway. Good workout today. When I get the lifts up on the Smith, I'll move to the deadlift rack, then the floor hopefully. I could get those oldman single ply numbers I think.

Back & bis
Smith deadlifts:
185 X8
235*X5
235 X5
235 X5
235 X5
235 X5
Wide-grip pulldowns:
105*X10
120 X10
Straight arm pulldowns:
55X10
55X10
55X10
Underhand cable rows:
120 X10
135 X 8
150 X6
Alternating curls:
30s X 10 per arm
30s X10
30s X10
Alternating hammer curls:
45s X8 per arm G8*
45s X8
Incline curls:
27.5s X10 G10
27.5s X9
Cybex preacher curls:
62.5 X10
62.5 X10
62.5 X10

 

[LeanEngineer]

I'll be 65 on my next birthday anyway.

Did not know you were about to turn 65?! All your lifts and stats are impressive for your age!

 

[SBH]

Did not know you were about to turn 65?! All your lifts and stats are impressive for your age!

Thank you. That's why I want to play around with the powerlifting. The numbers look attainable to me especially in the classic raw. The single ply looks doable also. If I get close doing natural it would be great. The pec tear was a major setback in my best lift. That's the reason for the Pause bench.

 

[SBH]

I'm thinking about doing farmer carries on cardio days to see if it helps my shoulder click on the OHP. Another interesting idea is playing around with hand placement to see if that helps. Anyway, I still hit them pretty good just doing the heads separately.

Pretty good delt day anyway. The rear delts are doing good but I'd still like to nail a better contraction movement.
Delts & hips
Cybex incline bench:
160 X5
160 X5
160 X5
Leaning lat raises:
25 X10,10 R&L
25 X10,10
Cybex lat raises:
85 X10,10 R&L
85 X10,10
85 X10,10
Cybex Reverse flies:
70 X10,10 R&L
70 X10,10
Facepulls:
60 X10
60 X10
60 X10
Hip abduction:
60* X10
60 X10
70 X10
Hip adduction:
40* X10
50 X10
60 X10
Hoist crunch:
R: 185 X30 G30*
L: 185 X 30
M:185 X31

 

[LeanEngineer]

The pec tear was a major setback in my best lift. That's the reason for the Pause bench.

Definitely the safer route. I use to always start off with bench for my chest workouts. I've heard it's better to start with some sort of fly movement prior to a press movement to avoid risk of pec tear as well.

 

[SBH]

Definitely the safer route. I use to always start off with bench for my chest workouts. I've heard it's better to start with some sort of fly movement prior to a press movement to avoid risk of pec tear as well.

Yeah, when I started back on chest after the tear, I only did super light on the Cybex. Keeping it fairly light and doing pause reps on the flat now with heavies on the Cybex should help me safely get it back. At some point I'll take up on the flat and do the 5X5 like that.

 

[LeanEngineer]

At some point I'll take up on the flat and do the 5X5 like that.

I know a lot of people who don't do flat bench at all due to pec tear risk but I still keep it in my routine and just try and warm up the muscle before going into it and going heavier.

 

[SBH]

I know a lot of people who don't do flat bench at all due to pec tear risk but I still keep it in my routine and just try and warm up the muscle before going into it and going heavier.

I'm pretty close to forgetting about doing a big flat bench. What difference does some goofy association's recognition make anyway? Doing the big lifts on the cybex is pretty cool and far less risky. I might just do a pyramid on it tomorrow!

 

[LeanEngineer]

I might just do a pyramid on it tomorrow!

That sounds fun and painful all at the same time

 

[SBH]

I decided to drop that whole idea of powerlifting. I mean who cares about a certificate anyway?

It's more fun doing gainers and challenging yourself to do bigger lifts.
I was going to see what I can do on the Cybex bench today but decided to do 5x5 instead. Still have the pause reps in for my Warmup and pec repair.

I'm on the second bottle of turkesterone. Pretty good strength for basically being natural.

Chest & tris
Flat bench pause:
135 X5
135 X5
135 X5
Cybex bench:
225 X5
225 X5
225 X5
225 X5
225 X5
Cybex flies:
100 X10
100 X10
Cybex tricep press;
115 X10
125 X8
135 X6
Cybex tri ext:
75 X10
75 X10
Rope push downs:
65 X10
65 X10
65 X10
Torso rotation:
70 X20,20 R&L G20
70 X20,20
70 X20,20

 

[SBH]

Haha I had myself talked into doing leg press( my converses are at the house).
Then I saw this young lady doing squats in socks. It was on!

So the sock feet thing wasn't bad. I might try it with the new Cybex rack the next time. Might be able to go one peg lower on that one and not be scrunched too bad.

Anyway I played it careful after playing on that leg press last week. I'll bump it back where I was next time. I just wore my running shoes in the Smith when doing the feet forward.

Leg day:
Squats:
135 X10
185 X5
205 X5
215*X5
220 X5
225 X5
Feet forward squats:
205*X5
225 X5
Prone leg curls:
50*X10
50 X10
50 X10
Seated leg ext:
130 X10
130 X10
130 X10
Standing calf raises:
In 180* X 35 G30
Out 180 X35
Mid 180 X35

 

[LeanEngineer]

Haha I had myself talked into doing leg press( my converses are at the house).
Then I saw this young lady doing squats in socks. It was on!

So the sock feet thing wasn't bad.

Since I mainly train at my home gym I will do just socks for a lot of leg day workouts and sometimes back day as well. Feels like I have more stability and power in my opinion.

 

[SBH]

Since I mainly train at my home gym I will do just socks for a lot of leg day workouts and sometimes back day as well. Feels like I have more stability and power in my opinion.

Yeah I've seen guys doing squats barefooted at the gym but didn't want to show my ugly feet . The sock feet works pretty good. I was a tad low when racking(even the converses take me a little higher). The newer racks are a bit different.
Might find a better peg with them.

 

[SBH]

I did the upright bike with varying intensity for an hour today. My lowest heart rate was 72. When I was doing mad cardio it was in the 60s. My rested heart in the AM back then was in the 50s. Now it's low 60s.
Not bad considering I only do 1 day currently and miss some of those.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Not bad considering I only do 1 day currently and miss some of those.

Dang that's good. So you only do 1 day a week cardio?

 

[SBH]

Dang that's good. So you only do 1 day a week cardio?

It's kinda supposed to be two but I'm away from my porch bike. I might try to do a 3 day split on lifting but all the angle work makes it hard. I really don't want to stay at the gym all day.

 

[SBH]

I trained at Snap Fitness today so I did rack deads. Their Smith doesn’t go almost to the floor like the Cybex at my main gym.
Kinda cool finding out where I'm at with the freeweights.

I also had to do freeweight preacher curls and they were a bit wobbly. Don't remember having that issue before but I have been using the machine version quite awhile. A couple guys did crucifix curls and you're right in the mirror there doing them. Might do them for my contraction curls when at Snap.
Back & bis:
Rack deadlifts:
135 X8
185 X6
205 X5
225 X5
230 X5
235 X5
Wide-grip pulldowns:
120 X10
120 X10
Straight arm pulldowns:
60X10
65X 10
70X10
Underhand cable rows:
120 X10
135 X 8
150 X6
Alternating curls:
30s X10 per arm
30s X10
30s X10
Rope hammer curls:
70 X 10
80 X10
90 X10
Incline curls:
25s X 10G10
25s X10
Preacher curls:
62.5 X10
62.5 X10
62.5 X10

 

[LeanEngineer]

It's kinda supposed to be two but I'm away from my porch bike. I might try to do a 3 day split on lifting but all the angle work makes it hard. I really don't want to stay at the gym all day.

I have a treadmill and bike in my garage gym so i'll typically lift in the morning before work and then 3-4 nights a week I will try to do 20 minutes of cardio.

 

[SBH]

I have a treadmill and bike in my garage gym so i'll typically lift in the morning before work and then 3-4 nights a week I will try to do 20 minutes of cardio.

I also have a bike and treadmill on the porch and tons of walking trails around here. I know you have a Cybex bench if you also have a power cage, I highly envy you. Well I have three silver sneakers memberships so no excuses.

 

[SBH]

I think adding in the hip abduction is going to help the pain from the fractures over time. It was rough at first and I had to be careful but I think it will help the pain and my squats.
It's kinda wild not really deloading much while off. I give the turkesterone most of the credit for that. Endogenous test working a bit better from phasing out the kratom may also have some to do with it.

Delts & hips:
Cybex incline bench:
165* X5
165 X5
165 X5
Leaning lat raises:
25 X10,10 R&L
25 X10,10
Cybex lat raises:
85 X10,10 R&L
85 X10,10
85 X10,10
Cybex Reverse flies:
70 X10,10 R&L
70 X10,10
Facepulls:
60 X10
60 X10
60 X10
Hip abduction:
70* X10
70 X10
70 X10
Hip adduction:
60*X10
60 X10
60 X10
Hoist crunch:
R: 185 X 33 G33
L: 185 X 33
M:185 X34

 

[LeanEngineer]

I also have a bike and treadmill on the porch and tons of walking trails around here. I know you have a Cybex bench if you also have a power cage, I highly envy you. Well I have three silver sneakers memberships so no excuses.

I don't have the cybex bench yet but it's on my "to buy" list. I do have a power cage with about 400 lbs of free weights + dumbells that go to 110

 

[SBH]

My favorite version is this one:

FitnessZone: Cybex Plate Loaded Chest Press

They also have one that is more like a flat at my main gym. I get about the same weight on either but getting set is easier on this one. You can get a better deal even on the stack plate version with weights.

 

[SBH]

I don't have the cybex bench yet but it's on my "to buy" list. I do have a power cage with about 400 lbs of free weights + dumbells that go to 110

I meant to tag you on the post above.