High SHBG and muscle gains

[Vikingbro]

I have been on TRT a few months now and when I started my bloods showed high SHBG. The top end of the range was 52 and mine was 56. I started TRT with proviron 25mg a day to lower it and it has only made it go to 52 after a couple of months which isn’t great. Will having a high SHBG at the very top of the range affect muscle growth that much? Also do you think upping the proviron to 25mg twice a day would help?

 

[insane]

I have been on TRT a few months now and when I started my bloods showed high SHBG. The top end of the range was 52 and mine was 56. I started TRT with proviron 25mg a day to lower it and it has only made it go to 52 after a couple of months which isn’t great. Will having a high SHBG at the very top of the range affect muscle growth that much? Also do you think upping the proviron to 25mg twice a day would help?

Do you know what your Free T was?
E?

 

[Vikingbro]

Do you know what your Free T was?
E?

My clinic calculated the free T I can’t remember what it was at hand but remember it being very low. Something in the range of 0.3%. My E reading was mid range so that wasn’t an issue. What are your thoughts?

 

[insane]

My clinic calculated the free T I can’t remember what it was at hand but remember it being very low. Something in the range of 0.3%. My E reading was mid range so that wasn’t an issue. What are your thoughts?

I figured your free t was low due to hi shgb. When you say your E was “mid range”, that’s pretty vague, especially when interpreted by endocrinologist that I’ve learned thru experience, don’t know ****. As long as your #’s are in lab value ranges, they’re satisfied.
Just speculating but if your E is high enough (even though it’s in lab range), it could be cause of your hi shgb & therefore low free t. So knowing your E would be helpful. I use a small dose of arimidex which keeps my E around 25, my shgb low, and free t high. Btw, im on trt -100 mgs/week test cyp. Whats your trt dose? Test cyp?
It’d be good to know all this before addressing proviron increase (which being highly androgenic, is beneficial to your goal)

 

[Vikingbro]

I figured your free t was low due to hi shgb. When you say your E was “mid range”, that’s pretty vague, especially when interpreted by endocrinologist that I’ve learned thru experience, don’t know ****. As long as your #’s are in lab value ranges, they’re satisfied.
Just speculating but if your E is high enough (even though it’s in lab range), it could be cause of your hi shgb & therefore low free t. So knowing your E would be helpful. I use a small dose of arimidex which keeps my E around 25, my shgb low, and free t high. Btw, im on trt -100 mgs/week test cyp. Whats your trt dose? Test cyp?
It’d be good to know all this before addressing proviron increase (which being highly androgenic, is beneficial to your goal)

Thanks for your reply. My E2 was 83 pmol/l (range was given as < 192). SHBG was 56( range 16-55 nmol/l). I am on sustanon 250. 125mg e5ds. Proviron 25mg once a day and no AI.

 

[FRITZFURY]

Thanks for your reply. My E2 was 83 pmol/l (range was given as < 192). SHBG was 56( range 16-55 nmol/l). I am on sustanon 250. 125mg e5ds. Proviron 25mg once a day and no AI.

Let me help you out. First even though Sust is long acting the more frequent you inject the lower your SHBG and estro will be. this is because the Test propianate causes a small surge of T and your body reacts with aromitase. so pin 2x/week and dont tell your doc cus like said^^^ endos are sh1t. Next this is a big secret that even Pat Arnold says is a must for all AAS users...buy bulk stinging nettle root extract 10:1 Invalid Link Removed You can get cheaper and less amounts but the steroidal symponin in nettle not only lowers SHBG a ton [ up to 60%] but it down-regulates the receptor in the hypo that tells body to release aromitase, and it also inhibits the 5AR enzyme so you keep more free T and less gets converted to DHT. Its amazing. Lastly pic up some Aromasin just to have on hand but I gurantee this will solve all your problems.

 

[insane]

^^^^
Fritzfury knows his stuff!!

 

[Vikingbro]

Let me help you out. First even though Sust is long acting the more frequent you inject the lower your SHBG and estro will be. this is because the Test propianate causes a small surge of T and your body reacts with aromitase. so pin 2x/week and dont tell your doc cus like said^^^ endos are sh1t. Next this is a big secret that even Pat Arnold says is a must for all AAS users...buy bulk stinging nettle root extract 10:1 Invalid Link Removed You can get cheaper and less amounts but the steroidal symponin in nettle not only lowers SHBG a ton [ up to 60%] but it down-regulates the receptor in the hypo that tells body to release aromitase, and it also inhibits the 5AR enzyme so you keep more free T and less gets converted to DHT. Its amazing. Lastly pic up some Aromasin just to have on hand but I gurantee this will solve all your problems.

Legend! Thanks for your help mate. I will do these things. What dose of nettle should I take and how may times a day?

 

[FRITZBLITZZ]

Legend! Thanks for your help mate. I will do these things. What dose of nettle should I take and how may times a day?

I might over do it cuz it's cheap and I have not yet found correct dose from BW but 1600mg fits in a 00 capsule and I Take 1 a day ON CYCLE. Last time I was on cycle taking 1600mg ed I had insane high FT like 280 which is good but my SHBG was very very low and this does cause problems. You want your SHBG at low norm or just below. It is needed as a reserve, transporter, and hormone calculator meaning as it flows it will free up needed hormones to cells and soak up excess hormones and this includes DHT, Nandro [yes it is natty in micro doses], estro, progestin, cortisol ect. so when you have a build up of say DHT near your hair it can move it to muscle ect. So just for TRT I would start with 500mg day after pin which should be 2x/week

 

[Vikingbro]

I might over do it cuz it's cheap and I have not yet found correct dose from BW but 1600mg fits in a 00 capsule and I Take 1 a day ON CYCLE. Last time I was on cycle taking 1600mg ed I had insane high FT like 280 which is good but my SHBG was very very low and this does cause problems. You want your SHBG at low norm or just below. It is needed as a reserve, transporter, and hormone calculator meaning as it flows it will free up needed hormones to cells and soak up excess hormones and this includes DHT, Nandro [yes it is natty in micro doses], estro, progestin, cortisol ect. so when you have a build up of say DHT near your hair it can move it to muscle ect. So just for TRT I would start with 500mg day after pin which should be 2x/week

Cheers mate I will order some right now