High BF cycle advice

brandlife said:
roger that - but this is 6 weeks! not MONTHS
also... can I PCT with Nolva?
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Read the protocol. Its complete as it is. No nolva. Do it as described without questions, because nobody wants to explain you in a 10 pages crash course the basics.
 
brandlife said:
hey bossman - get informed. read the thread and THEN comment. You can't just BOSS everyone around and not know the facts! Jeez.
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Hahhaaaa....get informed, that's a new one. Just not into excuses bud, that's all.
Would hate to see your lil temper tantrum if you ever get your cycle figured out. Best of luck!
 
brandlife said:
what do you think I'm trying to do?
FWIW I was more/less kidding.

Thanks everyone.
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So don't question it. Just move your azz!

-count calories, eat clean (no more skittles, beer, chips, coke and fries)
-make sure to get enough protein
-be in a slight deficit, like minus 500kcal/d
-lift 3 times a week high volume and to perceived failure most of the time
-do clever exercises (pull ups, push ups, deadlifts, bent over rows, squats, dips)
-keep the boxing, maybe reduce to 2 times a week
-do the damn var cycle as described
-come back and show the results

If you did it right, you will be at HALF of your journey, because.... no magic here, just cleared the first milestone of many.
 
hairygrandpa said:
So don't question it. Just move your azz!

-count calories, eat clean (no more skittles, beer, chips, coke and fries)
-make sure to get enough protein
-be in a slight deficit, like minus 500kcal/d
-lift 3 times a week high volume and to perceived failure most of the time
-do clever exercises (pull ups, push ups, deadlifts, bent over rows, squats, dips)
-keep the boxing, maybe reduce to 2 times a week
-do the damn var cycle as described
-come back and show the results

If you did it right, you will be at HALF of your journey, because.... no magic here, just cleared the first milestone of many.
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okay - last question - Can I do that cycle NOW and again in July?
 
brandlife said:
okay - last question - Can I do that cycle NOW and again in July?
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First do it -and see if you liked it -or not. Most people have too high expectations -and think: "Next time I gonna use more." Then, it backfires.
All depends on your diet on cycle (if training is how it supposed to be). Mark my words. If you can't even eat clean and intelligent, only a hefty tren cycle can counteract bad nutrition. If you chose the tren route, please log it here, wanna indulge in your suffering, I'm a bit sadistic, you know?
 
hairygrandpa said:
First do it -and see if you liked it -or not. Most people have too high expectations -and think: "Next time I gonna use more." Then, it backfires.
All depends on your diet on cycle (if training is how it supposed to be). Mark my words. If you can't even eat clean and intelligent, only a hefty tren cycle can counteract bad nutrition. If you chose the tren route, please log it here, wanna indulge in your suffering, I'm a bit sadistic, you know?
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I got ya. Please understand that my ENTIRE workout and eating routine is COMPLETELY different now than it was when I first posted. I'm making all my food at home for the week and eating smart. No drugs, no drinking and asleep every night @ 10:00pm. Boxing 3 days a week to cut the fat which was advised to me from the start bc var on a fatbody is a waste.

Also, I wanted to do a full 3 months off before starting again. It's been 8 months since my last cycle. If you think I should burn more fat, then hit the cycle as described (or differently) I can do that.
 
brandlife said:
I got ya. Please understand that my ENTIRE workout and eating routine is COMPLETELY different now than it was when I first posted. I'm making all my food at home for the week and eating smart. No drugs, no drinking and asleep every night @ 10:00pm. Boxing 3 days a week to cut the fat which was advised to me from the start bc var on a fatbody is a waste.

Also, I wanted to do a full 3 months off before starting again. It's been 8 months since my last cycle. If you think I should burn more fat, then hit the cycle as described (or differently) I can do that.
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Always better to be lean first. What I would do? Honestly? I would do it now. You already have it planed out in your head. Go for it and give it all. Maybe a visible success strengthens your decision in changing your nutrition and training even more, that's why I would start it without delay.
For PCT -and maybe even during the cycle, Proviron is a nice addition. If you want to spend on it, its a wise choice.
During cycle: 2x 25mg/d / in PCT 25mg/d.

Use creatine throughout, combines good with var.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Always better to be lean first. What I would do? Honestly? I would do it now. You already have it planed out in your head. Go for it and give it all. Maybe a visible success strengthens your decision in changing your nutrition and training even more, that's why I would start it without delay.
For PCT -and maybe even during the cycle, Proviron is a nice addition. If you want to spend on it, its a wise choice.
During cycle: 2x 25mg/d / in PCT 25mg/d.

Use creatine throughout, combines good with var.
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my main objective is to be ripped on the beach this summer so as long as i can squeeze another cycle in over the summer than im good
 
brandlife said:
my main objective is to be ripped on the beach this summer so as long as i can squeeze another cycle in over the summer than im good
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First get a little bit ripped....before making plans. And honestly? You won't make it til summer. You could change dramatically -but from experience, you will never be satisfied. :)
 
hairygrandpa said:
First do it -and see if you liked it -or not. Most people have too high expectations -and think: "Next time I gonna use more." Then, it backfires.
All depends on your diet on cycle (if training is how it supposed to be). Mark my words. If you can't even eat clean and intelligent, only a hefty tren cycle can counteract bad nutrition. If you chose the tren route, please log it here, wanna indulge in your suffering, I'm a bit sadistic, you know?
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Nailed it.
 
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