hey epi ur so fine!!!

[UncleRemus]

Im about to bite the bullett and finally run some epi. Im 5'10'' 188lbs, this would be my first. I dont wan't to go as high as 40mg, so I thought that a 20/20/30/30/30 would be a better option than 20/30/30/40 for me this time around.

Supports.....
AI cycle support (1 scoop first 10 days, then 2 throughout to make it last 5 weeks) <----- do not want to spend $35 for another, any adivce here on how to dose it effectively would be appreciated
Himalaya LIV 52 (preload for a week)
Lecithin (preload for a week + continue in PCT)
Taurine (as needed but would have it on hand)
DHEA or MSM/Chondroitin (sp?) not sure which would be better

PCT.... 1 2 3 4 5
Torem 120-90 60 60 30 x
ReduceXT 3 3 3 3 x
BulkTrione x 300mg 600 600 300

Would start creatine/beta alanine/gms that I usually run

Think the bulk trione (6oxo) is needed? Just wanted to use it to spare as much test as I can once it is kickstarted again. I like the pyrmid type dosin to prevent estro rebound. Any advice would be appreciated!

 

[rothyman]

I'm running DHEA @ 200mgs on my cycle and also MSM/Chond. There isn't enough you can do for your joints when on Epistane. It is dry and tough on them. I don't think 6oxo would be required on PCT, but it wouldn't hurt (except your wallet).

I'm just running Torem/Reduce/Creatine as PCT

 

[UncleRemus]

Yeah Im all for minimizing the amount of hormonal alterationgs during PCT, and letting my body take care of it. I think the SERM will be enough, but Ive never ran a PCT before, so I wanted to get some advice. Are you running more cycle support during PCT. I was thinking about just doing it on cycle and running lecithin and maybe NAC during PCT.

 

[rothyman]

Yeah Im all for minimizing the amount of hormonal alterationgs during post cycle therapy, and letting my body take care of it. I think the SERM will be enough, but Ive never ran a PCT before, so I wanted to get some advice. Are you running more cycle support during PCT. I was thinking about just doing it on cycle and running lecithin and maybe NAC during PCT.

Yes CS 2 scoops on cycle, 1 scoop during PCT.

 

[poopypants]

let me suggest cissus... solved any and all joint problems i encountered. otherwise looks like a pretty good plan man, make sure to keep us updated on your results :thumbsup:

 

[UncleRemus]

Cissus sounds like a good idea...only $9.99 for 100g at the planet! Is it best to take it twice a day, or just once. From what Ive seen most people were taking about 2-3 grams a day. ANy info here would be great. I guess I could take about 1.5g when I take my cycle support and other stuff?

 

[poopypants]

Cissus sounds like a good idea...only $9.99 for 100g at the planet! Is it best to take it twice a day, or just once. From what Ive seen most people were taking about 2-3 grams a day. ANy info here would be great. I guess I could take about 1.5g when I take my cycle support and other stuff?

ya i would take 1800mg 2 times ed. and i would purchase a capping kit and cap it yourself as well its a very econmic way of doing things and only has to be purchased once.. the caps are reletively cheap as well and the end result is you can always buy and cap all your own bulk powders that are just too nasty to drink down.