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[thebigt]

It is, generally, the nature of the older generation to be averse to change. This is no different than the civil rights movement. The younger generation is more willing to accept a person without regard to race, gender, or sexual orientation.

And you're right on with your previous post. It has taken over 2,000 years and full human rights is just now becoming popular.

my generation did some good things as youth, but we have failed miserably as adults!!! the civil rights movement of the 60's-70's would not have been nearly as successful without the involvement of white youth!!!

it is unfortunate that race relations today are so bad today...race relations and poverty are the things i think todays youth should be spending their efforts on!!!

 

[CincyKiller45]

my generation did some good things as youth, but we have failed miserably as adults!!! the civil rights movement of the 60's-70's would not have been nearly as successful without the involvement of white youth!!!

it is unfortunate that race relations today are so bad today...race relations and poverty are the things i think todays youth should be spending their efforts on!!!

I don't believe that one persons rights supersedes another's. If we are truly working towards an improved society, all three issues should be addressed.

 

[thebigt]

I don't believe that one persons rights supersedes another's. If we are truly working towards an improved society, all three issues should be addressed.

i guess it depends on your opinion of improved!!!

of the 8 industrialized nations we are the only one without federally mandated holidays and vacations with pay, changing this would be a vast improvement, imo...

 

[CincyKiller45]

i guess it depends on your opinion of improved!!!

of the 8 industrialized nations we are the only one without federally mandated holidays and vacations with pay, changing this would be a vast improvement, imo...

Fair point. Improved is subjective.

 

[B5150]

To say acceptance of this choice and belief system devolves society sure seems slanderous to me.

If you had a better understanding of the dynamics of opposite sex marriage/parents and the social and emotional development of male and female children you might understand why I have my opinion. Maybe you do. Having been a father for 27 years I have first hand insight on parenting and the idiosyncrasies of influence on my children's development socially and emotionally.

Who will model the (positive and negative) male character traits that a daughter should aspire to find (or avoid) in a male partner when she is of age. Who will model to her how a man treats a woman when it comes time to accept such treatment (or lack thereof) from a male? Will it be adequate with same sex marriage/parents?

Who will model the same for a young male?

Boys learn how to treat their gf/wives (good or bad) by the model their fathers portray to their mothers.
Girls learn how to expect to be treated by their bf/husband by the model their fathers portray to their mothers.

Reverse and insert each gender in each scenario. There are a billion scenarios of the significance of a two gender marriage/parent home influence and how its absence will alter the emotional and social development of children and future adults.

The most significant influence on the male (and African American in particular) criminal/incarceration rate in the country is the absence of a father in a home. This is not to minimize the influence of the mother. Her absence is a significant influence as well.

The ramifications of the perversion of the roles will alter the development of our children, future adults, and our future as a society and our species as we continue to tolerate and/or accept anything at the cost of individual "happiness".

What you live you learn, what you learn you practice, what you practice you become, what you become has consequences.

Notice I never used negative or derogatory or judgmental terms? This isn't entirely about my faith, my values or my morals.

"In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state."

Thirty years from now remember we had this discussion.

 

[thebigt]

If you had a better understanding of the dynamics of opposite sex marriage/parents and the social and emotional development of male and female children you might understand why I have my opinion. Maybe you do. Having been a father for 27 years I have first hand insight on parenting and the idiosyncrasies of influence on my children's development socially and emotionally.

Who will model the (positive and negative) male character traits that a daughter should aspire to find (or avoid) in a male partner when she is of age. Who will model to her how a man treats a woman when it comes time to accept such treatment (or lack thereof) from a male? Will it be adequate with same sex marriage/parents?

Who will model the same for a young male?

Boys learn how to treat their gf/wives (good or bad) by the model their fathers portray to their mothers.
Girls learn how to expect to be treated by their bf/husband by the model their fathers portray to their mothers.

Reverse and insert each gender in each scenario. There are a billion scenarios of the significance of a two gender marriage/parent home influence and how it will alter the emotional and social development of children and future adults.

The most significant influence on the male (and African American in particular) criminal/incarceration rate in the country is the absence of a father in a home. This is not to minimize the influence of the mother. Her absence is a significant influence as well.

The ramifications of the perversion of the roles will alter the development of our children, future adults, and our future as a society and our species as we continue to tolerate and/or accept anything at the cost of individual "happiness".

What you live you learn, what you learn you practice, what you practice you become, what you become has consequences.

Notice I never used negative or derogatory terms? This isn't entirely about my faith, my values or my morals.

"In chaos theory, the butterfly effect is the sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic nonlinear system can result in large differences in a later state."

Thirty years from now remember we had this discussion.

this is why i say my generation of baby boomers has failed....many of my generation have failed to instill core values and discipline on our children!!!

baby boomers have for the most part not accepted the responsibilty of being a guiding force of good example for our children and the youth of today!!!

 

[B5150]

this is why i say my generation of baby boomers has failed....many of my generation have failed to instill core values and discipline on our children!!!

baby boomers have for the most part not accepted the responsibilty of being a guiding force of good example for our children and the youth of today!!!

Today's fathers/mothers are no better. The "whatever makes you happy" core values system is equally misguiding.

 

[thebigt]

Today's fathers/mothers are no better. The "whatever makes you happy" core values system is equally misguiding.

i hold my generation responsible for todays mothers and fathers...we were the 1st generation that didn't pass on the core values and disclipine that mothers and fathers had been passing down from the beginning of this country. we are also responsible for the whatever makes you happy values, imo!!!

not all of us, there are those of us who have tried to set good examples for and teach our children right and wrong---just not nearly as many of baby boomers do this as was the case in our parents generation and before!!!

 

[B5150]

"The surgery fixed nothing—it only masked and exacerbated deeper psychological problems."

a lifelong internal struggle to find happiness and acceptance.

This is interesting.
Michael Jackson did it (race reassignment) over a music career.
This woman has been pulling it off for years apparently.
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People with social, emotional and psychological issues "struggling to find happiness and acceptance" "masking deeper psychological issues".
Reorientation and reasignment - simply symptoms.

Hey, when you don't agree just spew doomsday hyperbole.

There is nothing to agree with. It simply is what it is and its happening right before their naked steaming hipster eyes and they don't even know it - rather they just embrace it.

FWIW - I have a brother who professed his orientation to be gay long long ago. I know the home he grew up in. I know the influences and tampering of his earliest years. I know the emotional and psychological issues he has and watched them develop over our youth. It is of no wonder he is "struggling to find happiness and acceptance" "masking deeper psychological issues" and still does today. I love my brother and accept that his lifestyle is something I do not celebrate and am challenged to tolerate.

My mother's husband (not my father) has a son who is gay. Again...make observations on the family roots and dynamics and its not hard to see the influences.

We all are "struggling to find happiness and acceptance" "masking deeper psychological issues" of one degree or another in our lives. I'm not looking to hate on anyone. Its unfortunate that the greatest depth to discussion on the issue we can get is to just accept and tolerate and otherwise you're a bigot or homophobic. What we are streamlining into mainstream is a symptom of a greater issue and no one wants to open their eyes enough to see it.

 

[B5150]

Caitlyn dating transgender Candis

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Please explain to me the course of the natural selection process here. A male transgendered to a resemble female to date another male transgendered to resemble a female...

...normal and natural without any deep underlying psychological and emotional issues here.

At this point it's become a macabre comedy that no one sees as disturbing at the slightest.

 

[Jiigzz]

Caitlyn dating transgender Candis

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Please explain to me the course of the natural selection process here. A male transgendered to a resemble female to date another male transgendered to resemble a female...

...normal and natural without any deep underlying psychological and emotional issues here.

At this point it's become a macabre comedy that no one sees as disturbing at the slightest.

I too find this odd. Im not sure what to say about this. In for responses and attempted justification

 

[thebigt]

I too find this odd. Im not sure what to say about this. In for responses and attempted justification

obama is president...just wait until hillary finishes the job!!!

 

[kisaj]

I too find this odd. Im not sure what to say about this. In for responses and attempted justification

I think it has jumped the shark and is a side show at this point. I will be the first to say live and let live, but this is just stupid.

 

[youngandfree]

Wouldn't guys rather watch to "women" go at it than 2 dudes? Just watch from the waist up.

 

[B5150]

Wouldn't guys rather watch to "women" go at it than 2 dudes? Just watch from the waist up.

what you're doing is eluding to the sexual depravity and fetish of the matter. I've been told to refrain from considering it anything other than "a struggle for acceptance" and "being true to ones self and others" and that its freedom from the secrecy and dual lives that these people struggle to live with and suffer from because of the inability of society to accept them and their innate desire to celebrate their natural selection/identification.

What? Are you saying its not all virtuous?

 

[Jiigzz]

I think it has jumped the shark and is a side show at this point. I will be the first to say live and let live, but this is just stupid.

Agreed.

I just dont understand it lol

 

[B5150]

Oregon 15-year-olds are now allowed to get a sex-change operation without parental permission.

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[thebigt]

Oregon 15-year-olds are now allowed to get a sex-change operation without parental permission.

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what about parental rights? it seems the government doesn't see the need for parents since they know what is best for OUR children...geez, this country is becoming more like the chinese everyday with all of the social brainwashing going on, imo.

 

[B5150]

"How far is the country going to allow this to go in the name of not offending the politically correct SJW crowd? Is there no red line which can not be crossed?"

Who said that? It sounds like "deja vu all over again".

 

[thebigt]

"How far is the country going to allow this to go in the name of not offending the politically correct SJW crowd? Is there no red line which can not be crossed?"

Who said that? It sounds like "deja vu all over again".

i was told to...don't worry, be happy.

apparently the obama crowd are pushing for a no holds barred anything goes reform....i predict things will be even worse with hillary!!!

 

[B5150]

I've been told "why do I care, it doesn't effect me" and "it's about time" and "they just want to be happy" by this SJW (btw I learned a new acronym) crowd.

This enabling of everyone who aspire to this weird fringe lifestyle in order to not offend or alienate the few is getting old. Some of this stuff is absurd abd this is a perfect example of no boundaries.

It's one thing for a "confused" person of youth trying to find themselves and their individuality to pierce their tongue or gauge their ears or tattoo their skin (all of which require adult consent) but to allow a hormonal pubescent male/female without adult consent (even with is absurd) to alter their body chemistry (we even have a 21 age requirement here to discuss hormones) and mutilate themselves permanently is beyond reprehensible.

I know - it's me and my fascist Christian hate that is the problem and not this society we live in.

 

[Jiigzz]

I've been told "why do I care, it doesn't effect me" and "it's about time" and "they just want to be happy" by this SJW (btw I learned a new acronym) crowd.

This enabling of everyone who aspire to this weird fringe lifestyle in order to not offend or alienate the few is getting old. Some of this stuff is absurd abd this is a perfect example of no boundaries.

It's one thing for a "confused" person of youth trying to find themselves and their individuality to pierce their tongue or gauge their ears or tattoo their skin (all of which require adult consent) but to allow a hormonal pubescent male/female without adult to alter their body chemistry (we even have a 21 age requirement here to discuss hormones) and mutilate themselves permanently is beyond reprehensible.

I know - it's me and my fascist Christian hate that is the problem and not this society we live in.

I think these places have taken it to the next level though. Allowing a grown man to make a life decision is one thing, allowing 15 year olds to have surgery when they might be confused about their sexuality and where they fit in is another.

 

[B5150]

I think these places have taken it to the next level though. Allowing a grown man to make a life decision is one thing, allowing 15 year olds to have surgery when they might be confused about their sexuality and where they fit in is another.

I agree.

I know that as a kid I was told "I could be anything" and that really was not very helpful in that I had quite s diverse competence and aptitude as a kid. Opening the whole world as an option was almost a hinderance to making a decision on my vocational path.

Today the meaning of "I can be anything" is astronomically different and potentially detrimental to the health and well being of our kids, our future adults, and our society. The "choices" we have made options today are truly sacrilege.

 

[thebigt]

I've been told "why do I care, it doesn't effect me" and "it's about time" and "they just want to be happy" by this SJW (btw I learned a new acronym) crowd.

This enabling of everyone who aspire to this weird fringe lifestyle in order to not offend or alienate the few is getting old. Some of this stuff is absurd abd this is a perfect example of no boundaries.

It's one thing for a "confused" person of youth trying to find themselves and their individuality to pierce their tongue or gauge their ears or tattoo their skin (all of which require adult consent) but to allow a hormonal pubescent male/female without adult consent (even with is absurd) to alter their body chemistry (we even have a 21 age requirement here to discuss hormones) and mutilate themselves permanently is beyond reprehensible.

I know - it's me and my fascist Christian hate that is the problem and not this society we live in.

lol...i laugh out loud when i see a man or woman in their 40's and 50's talking about a new tatoo, it is one thing for youth to be childish and make childish decisions but at some point it is time to grow up. the older generation should be the standard bearers against bad decisions not advocates.

i don't think anyone here is going to defend the rights of children to get gender surgery without parental permission, i just hope this is not a sign of things to come...i am going to say it again, hillary is going to bring this country down!!!