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No clue how decent an OTC would be but just curious if any exist that are worth a poop.

Some of the ingredients that combined might be "ok"?

Yohimbe
Ginko
Horny Goat Weed
Arginine
Muira Puama
L-Arginine
Maca
Red Onion Peel (read about it - interesting stuff)
Iicariin
mucuna pruriens
 
I've used ai sports perform before once or twice from samples and it was decent. Was still rock hard for almost an he after getting off so tha that's something ha
 
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Libido, macapro

Performance, maybe volume

And technically Amentoflavone is a PDE inhibitor
 
MARK_ said:
Quite a few people would agree with this. I would :)
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Do you get the same nasty sides? Wicked headaches, nasal congenstion, etc?
 
Whacked said:
Do you get the same nasty sides? Wicked headaches, nasal congenstion, etc?
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No sides. I have you 9 caps in a day with none of the sides you mentioned
 
kisaj said:
Tongkat isn't in your list and will do more for libido than any of those, IMO.
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Sup K

How about if your are on TRT?
 
thanks for the kind words about volume...when combined with hpta i feel it is the best sexual stack available!!!
 
thebigt said:
what do you mean by REAL tongkat + iicarin?
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Most of Tongkat Ali around is underdosed or not standarized for the right quassinoids and alkaloids which have been proven in studies to have T boosting ,AI/SERM properties and boosting fertility (with regard to higher semen volumes, sperm concentrations, the percentage of normal sperm morphology and sperm motility).
 
Danes said:
Most of Tongkat Ali around is underdosed or not standarized for the right quassinoids and alkaloids which have been proven in studies to have T boosting ,AI/SERM properties and boosting fertility (with regard to higher semen volumes, sperm concentrations, the percentage of normal sperm morphology and sperm motility).
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i have tried several of the popular tongkat formulas and a popular single ingredient tongkat product with decent results, none of which came close to the tongkat formula in HPTA for me.....HPTA rules as best tongkat containing product i have tried-by far!!!!
 
Danes said:
Most of Tongkat Ali around is underdosed or not standarized for the right quassinoids and alkaloids which have been proven in studies to have T boosting ,AI/SERM properties and boosting fertility (with regard to higher semen volumes, sperm concentrations, the percentage of normal sperm morphology and sperm motility).
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I've tried tongkat from one bulk source, and it seems to significantly increase my libido, which is plenty healthy to begin with when taken at 100-200mg day of what is specified as a 100:1 extract. It also tastes very bitter, which studies say a proper extract should, considering:
Properly standardized hot-water extracts [2,26,29] have a distinctly bitter taste due to the presence of quassinoids, which are recognized as some of the bitterest compounds in nature [30,31]. Tongkat ali extracts that do not taste bitter are either not true Eurycoma longifolia root (there are many commercial examples of “fake” tongkat ali extracts) or are sub-potent in terms of bioactive constituents, and thus would also be expected to have low efficacy. Because of tongkat ali’s reputation for libido benefits, there are several examples of dietary supplements labeled as Eurycoma longifolia, but containing none of the actual root, and instead being “spiked” with prescription erectile dysfunction drugs including tadalafil/Cialis, sildenafil/Viagra, and vardenafil/Levitra [4, personal communication].
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thebigt said:
i have tried several of the popular tongkat formulas and a popular single ingredient tongkat product with decent results, none of which came close to the tongkat formula in HPTA for me.....HPTA rules as best tongkat containing product i have tried-by far!!!!
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It could be sir. But HPTA is a blend with many other ingredients :)
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I've tried tongkat from one bulk source, and it seems to significantly increase my libido, which is plenty healthy to begin with when taken at 100-200mg day of what is specified as a 100:1 extract. It also tastes very bitter, which studies say a proper extract should, considering:
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Yes and the myth that TA need to be dark...

"There is a popular misconception that Tongkat Ali (TA) extract should be dark brown. This is not true and is normally propagated by sellers of dark brown TA. In fact, the purest form of Tongkat Ali extract is white! The main active ingredient of TA, and the one that is responsible for enhancing testosterone production and improving sperm health, and also for reducing the conversion of testosterone to oestrogen (responsible for the formation of "man boobs") is a compound called Eurycomanone. Eurycomanone is snow white in its purest form. The colour of the spray dried Tongkat Ali powder after extraction varies according to many of the parameters of the extraction process, such as the amount of time that the roots have been dried, and how finely they are chipped, the extraction method itself – whether the chipped root is soaked in cold water, soaked in hot water, boiled, or repeatedly boiled. Other factors that affect the final product are: is it filtered or centrifuged, is it concentrated before drying by repeated boiling.

There are many scientific papers I have found describing the extraction process, and the resulting powder is variously described as creamy white, off white, green/yellow, tan and brown. In fact, the further from white the appearance is, the more impurities there are. However, it should be remembered that Eurycomanone is the most intensively researched of the active ingredients in TA, and, in addition to its effects on testosterone and sperm, may yet have a part to play in the treatment of malaria and some cancers."
 
Danes said:
Most of Tongkat Ali around is underdosed or not standarized for the right quassinoids and alkaloids which have been proven in studies to have T boosting ,AI/SERM properties and boosting fertility (with regard to higher semen volumes, sperm concentrations, the percentage of normal sperm morphology and sperm motility).
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Is the popular LJ-100 a good extract?
 
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