Hemoval is the ****!!!!

I think the I-Force reps, Vaughn in particular, handled the situation regarding their product quite well.
 
Cel, you being a representative does in fact reflect the company. Do you think I won't continue to purchase products from SNS because you made a mistake? The fact is its a great company and I will continue to use the products they sell. But trusting your insight as I rep I will not. I forgive you for your comments and hope that you have learned from this experience.
 
R3ACTION said:
Cel, you being a representative does in fact reflect the company. Do you think I won't continue to purchase products from SNS because you made a mistake? The fact is its a great company and I will continue to use the products they sell. But trusting your insight as I rep I will not. I forgive you for your comments and hope that you have learned from this experience.
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I thank you for the maturity of your forgiveness, my heart will grieve for you not trusting me. Please allow me with time to earn thy trust again once more. I shall with time prove you that the actions I did do not reflect my thoughts or the knowledge I hold :)
 
You really state alot of stuff you dont know anything about, how can you state i dont research anything. Because that is not the point here
I actually do know alot of stuff and i do research the hell out of everything...

The system is one of the topic i do try to understand, a company that comes out with their reps which get supplements for free. The reps that the Hype and make other members jump into buying a product. Thing is alot of people dont want to admit that what they paid for actually did not work, they look for the pump and feeling allthough it might not be there, they feel it. Because they want to feel it, they dont want to lose the money

This rebounds and makes the review the product as crazy, that then again makes other members buy products. They sience studies that are in some way paid and made, actually not telling every little detail. Maybe those that used this or that, where ill people, people will problems and thats why it actually worked. This does not mean it works for a healthy young man that has an extremely good diet as we bodybuilders do

So alot of things are into play when we look at products, some work, some dont. Hemavol did not work for me in no way, i farted and thats it. other products ive tried that i am not going to mention really work wonderfull, i research their products and thought hey thats sounds kinda good but is there any truth in it.. Buy the products and try it out, dont lie to your self.. Ive found good and bad products out there, so here my review.

Again sorry for offencesiv language
 
Profion said:
You really state alot of stuff you dont know anything about, how can you state i dont research anything. Because that is not the point here
I actually do know alot of stuff and i do research the hell out of everything...

The system is one of the topic i do try to understand, a company that comes out with their reps which get supplements for free. The reps that the Hype and make other members jump into buying a product. Thing is alot of people dont want to admit that what they paid for actually did not work, they look for the pump and feeling allthough it might not be there, they feel it. Because they want to feel it, they dont want to lose the money

This rebounds and makes the review the product as crazy, that then again makes other members buy products. They sience studies that are in some way paid and made, actually not telling every little detail. Maybe those that used this or that, where ill people, people will problems and thats why it actually worked. This does not mean it works for a healthy young man that has an extremely good diet as we bodybuilders do

So alot of things are into play when we look at products, some work, some dont. Hemavol did not work for me in no way, i farted and thats it. other products ive tried that i am not going to mention really work wonderfull, i research their products and thought hey thats sounds kinda good but is there any truth in it.. Buy the products and try it out, dont lie to your self.. Ive found good and bad products out there, so here my review.

Again sorry for offencesiv language
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Just keep in mind that the goal of this forum, besides truth, is in some way to get customers to purchase products that meet their fitness goals. Reps will recommend their company's products, obviously. Your experience with products don't always have to be truthful, just honest, and we thank you for sharing your experiences.

I am particularly interested in hearing about how Hemavol made you fart.
 
*positive* instead of *truthful* above.
 
Celorza said:
3.-Red9 what does this have to do with the company I represent? Just explain to me please...how are the comments of this persona, which are solely my own and based IMPO, reflecting of a company that has long proven to be respectable and reputable.

Get over this guys, I flipped out at a guy who came here and insulted a company and then tried to back off on his word...Woo made me realize that, we talked and I apologized.

Alas, isn't that the Christian way? Repentance and forgiveness...wow I feel deeply offended now (personally) that "ye of no faith" has now casted me as "wolf amidst the sheep."

Anyhow...unsub, I take responsibility of my actions, they were solely my own. To go critizicing SNS for what 1 person did, and not a company, is what is out of line (along with the statements i did or didn't do). At least I can repent and act upon them...can you? Let me know! Bye
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Celorza, any time you represent something, you are going to be held to a higher standard. Anything you say is going to reflect your company in some way or other, whether it be for good or bad. Regardless of rep or not, as.a CHRISTIAN is this the way you'd like to represent YOURSELF? I would certainly hope not. As said by someone above, this will not effect my decision as to my choice to buy or not buy SNS products, but it DOES give me an insight as to a.sliver of your personality and thoughts in which I can make a decision that you aren't exactly my favorite member of AM at the moment.

Faith? I have plenty, and as a Christian myself nobody can take FAITH from me. However I do not care to hear how Christianity could or could not be the reason for you deserving to be forgiven or not. Nor did that "divine spirituality" inspire you to use the choice words or act the way you did. There are simply right or wrong actions, regardless of religion.

Again, don't know how my faith is being questioned... ?

Also, if you were offended by the OP then maybe you should put those "Christian" values to work and not be so quick to judge and to use hateful statements to get a point across.

And last but not least, I have not cast you out nor do I plan on it. I did not ever criticize SNS in any way shape or form, I simply stated you werent representing them in this thread very positively. Nothing more, nothing less. Good day sir, and may we have future talks but more positive next time :)
 
Red9 said:
Celorza, any time you represent something, you are going to be held to a higher standard. Anything you say is going to reflect your company in some way or other, whether it be for good or bad. Regardless of rep or not, as.a CHRISTIAN is this the way you'd like to represent YOURSELF? I would certainly hope not. As said by someone above, this will not effect my decision as to my choice to buy or not buy SNS products, but it DOES give me an insight as to a.sliver of your personality and thoughts in which I can make a decision that you aren't exactly my favorite member of AM at the moment.

Faith? I have plenty, and as a Christian myself nobody can take FAITH from me. However I do not care to hear how Christianity could or could not be the reason for you deserving to be forgiven or not. Nor did that "divine spirituality" inspire you to use the choice words or act the way you did. There are simply right or wrong actions, regardless of religion.

Again, don't know how my faith is being questioned... ?

Also, if you were offended by the OP then maybe you should put those "Christian" values to work and not be so quick to judge and to use hateful statements to get a point across.

And last but not least, I have not cast you out nor do I plan on it. I did not ever criticize SNS in any way shape or form, I simply stated you werent representing them in this thread very positively. Nothing more, nothing less. Good day sir, and may we have future talks but more positive next time :)
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I was being put on the stake by you and fellow christian R3ACT , merely stating that if it was to be so (and judge me if you may for lack of morale in those actions) merely stating that a christian would not judge :D. However the faith arguments were more towards brother R3ACT who minded more the divine side.

I however can tell you, SNS does not support what I said and did. It was a mistake and thus apologized and tried to mend it, like I said and I reinstate...whenever you are free of mistakes come judge me ahead please. I tried to mend it up yet even after that you 2 came aboard just noticing the mistake and not the realization of it.

So if we had already stated it was wrong, and I had done something about it...what's the point of throwing more wood on the flames :)? Again , sorry for the remarks I did or didn't do, I can tell yah they won't be so blatant and direct in the future, nor will they be towards the insult of any NON-MEMBER like they were...as I have not pointed out...but I did not insult 2 members since the "Hodge Twins" are not part of the board...but I did mess up in being a hot headed idiot and posting that way. Not justifying what's done it's done, at least I took a step back...but yeah I let my 5 minutes of anger a day get the best of me.

Good day sir!
 
R3ACTION said:
Anyone else a little turned off by the fact that Cel is so habitually racist that he needs legal advise on how to properly offend people? I'll be sure to support a company who can stand behind an individual who not only insults Christians and minorities in a thread but seeks legal advise beforehand.
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You have a valid concern and I regret the way this has unfolded. Comments made in here are definitely over the top. SNS tries to hold to top quality standards and reps and aside from this thread, celly usually does an outstanding job.
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The "Representing" of SNS in this thread isn't too positive. A lot of hateful statements and immaturity back and forth on so many levels.Really is sad..
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Agreed completely that it went way too far and I personally will not condone it. I also believe he was expressing his own opinions and not commenting as a rep for us since it wasn't even about a product of our own. That doesn't make it ok and I can understand the taint that can be attached but I hope we can move past this as we have all made poor decisions before.
 
kingjameskjf said:
You have a valid concern and I regret the way this has unfolded. Comments made in here are definitely over the top. SNS tries to hold to top quality standards and reps and aside from this thread, celly usually does an outstanding job. Agreed completely that it went way too far and I personally will not condone it. I also believe he was expressing his own opinions and not commenting as a rep for us since it wasn't even about a product of our own. That doesn't make it ok and I can understand the taint that can be attached but I hope we can move past this as we have all made poor decisions before.
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This...and I am still sorry I spoke like this, it was not proper of me...not only as a rep but as a person.

Like James stated this was merely my own voice, and it reflects nothing on SNS since it is neither condoned or approved (trust me...I know I messed up)...

The mistakes are mine, and if judging shall be passed it is to me and with full responsibility over MY shoudlers. Nothing on SNS since they are nothing but outstanding people with amazing attitudes, opinions and knowledge.
 
For the person who asked me how hemavol made me fart, that was the only gains i got form it. It was alittle joke, hemavol did nothing for me and i used it correctly. Timeing, nutrition, and exercise

I can in no way, understand why religion and even christianity has been mentioned. Whether your budhist or atheist religion should never be an insight of how a person expresses him self. My mother always told me that i should never judge people on their name, color, faith, or contry but on their personality, here where i come from it is regarded abit pushy to talk about religion because you have your own thoughts on life and meaning, we have freedome of speach in every manner.

TMW always end their videos by saying " This has only been advise, this is just our opinion" Do what ever the F*** you wonna do. What they are saying is, that they are only giving their view on things in the gym and in general life. But they dont try to conviece you or make you believe that they are right! Some people want you to eat the book and puke the same words out, others make you think about stuff and digest it and create it as your own reality about.
 
Take two scoops of hemavol 45 minutes pre workout with dextrose and 5-10 grams of creatine monohydrate and you will change your tone quickly. Better yet add 2 g of alcar and then take your fav stim pre 15 min pre. This is the best pre workout combo i have ever tried, but take note u need some simple carbs. Follow these steps grasshopper and enjoy.
 
no idea what this guy is talking about, i make sure to drink a lot of water before taking my hemavol and my pumps are o_00000000000 crazy. I like working out at night so the non stim is awesome! But seriously mix it with a stim pre and good lord youll explode. I felt like I lost a few brain cells reading the first 3 pages btw
 
Celorza i really don't get why you're hating the twins... and why you're calling people ''ape without a brain'' here on the forum, that just shows how you really are... eventhough you look like a ****ing chipmunk lol , look at that ****ing head of yours. here's my thing, you gotta look at what people have achieved when taking their adviced , and it's not hard to know whose advice i'll take if i look at your body ( your avatar ) and the pics of the twins . so please stop talking crap against people that have achieved way more than you did =/ and you may think i'm a huge fan of the twins , but that's not true, i just can't stand ignorant cocky brats like you
 
I dont know who these twins are
 
BPjohn i'm curious... what do you mean with unsubbed ? :S you mean to tell me that you subbed them , yet you don't know who they are ? or is it something else ?
 
exist55 said:
BPjohn i'm curious... what do you mean with unsubbed ? :S you mean to tell me that you subbed them , yet you don't know who they are ? or is it something else ?
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Unsubbed from the thread. When you subscribe to a thread you follow it, if you go to settings it shows the thread you follow/post in. When someone says unsubbed in a thread it means they no longer want to (or in this case) care to follow along.
 
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