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Hematocrit and oral methylated cycles

jps051078

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Will 8 week oral methylated cycles raise
Hematocrit and red blood cell count? If so, would it gradually go down on its own after the cycle is over or would one have to donate blood to do this? Ran a Superdrol cycle about six weeks ago and have to have trt bloodwork. I would prefer not to self test these things if not necessary due to the added cost to see if levels are high and require therefore necessitate a blood donation before the trt bloodwork to lower the levels.
 
No, not unless you were using Anadrol or methyltestosterone, or possibly Dianabol.

Superdrol you’ll be good to go. Main thing it will hit is lipids and liver enzymes.
 
Hyde said:
No, not unless you were using Anadrol or methyltestosterone, or possibly Dianabol.

Superdrol you’ll be good to go. Main thing it will hit is lipids and liver enzymes.
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Thanks bro. Also had transdermal Trest ace, I don’t think that would effect it to you ?
 
How many of you need to regularly donate, I've literally only had to donate 1 time in the past 10-12 years. I feel like everyone thinks that you run a cycle and then have to run off and donate blood
 
Smont said:
How many of you need to regularly donate, I've literally only had to donate 1 time in the past 10-12 years. I feel like everyone thinks that you run a cycle and then have to run off and donate blood
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I’m pretty accident prone so I always like to tell myself the amount I bleed in a year averages everything out lol
 
jps051078 said:
Thanks bro. Also had transdermal Trest ace, I don’t think that would effect it to you ?
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I’ve not heard anyone report particularly significant phlebotic value elevations with Trest. The month I injected some early in my last blast didn’t meaningfully affect end values.

Also, things do lower over time on their own.

Smont said:
How many of you need to regularly donate, I've literally only had to donate 1 time in the past 10-12 years. I feel like everyone thinks that you run a cycle and then have to run off and donate blood
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Never needed to. End of this last run 8 weeks ago, my hemoglobin was like 17.3 and 52 hematocrit, RBC top of range, but I expect it to come down slightly over cruise. I’ll draw bloods again before another blast to make sure they’ve crept back to 17/50 per usual for me.
 
Smont said:
How many of you need to regularly donate, I've literally only had to donate 1 time in the past 10-12 years. I feel like everyone thinks that you run a cycle and then have to run off and donate blood
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So true...10-15 years ago that wasn't even a thing. Same thing with having to use caber..never heard of that until Boston Lloyd and now everytime someone wants to use deca they automatically think they need caber
 
Smont said:
How many of you need to regularly donate, I've literally only had to donate 1 time in the past 10-12 years. I feel like everyone thinks that you run a cycle and then have to run off and donate blood
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I’ve been on TRT for about 4 years now, H&H have consistent been at the top of range or a point over. Even cutting my dose in half for a few weeks before the blood draw didn’t get it down. I donated for the first time ever a few weeks ago, but then immediately jumped on cycle so I couldn’t say how much it dropped it.
I also got diagnosed with sleep apnea and started a cpap too.
I think I might donate again after this cycle but before the next blood draw - I’m assuming H&H will be in range then.

I do have family members that have sleep apnea and polycythemia vera, so I’m probably more prone to this side.
 
Uncle_E said:
I’ve been on TRT for about 4 years now, H&H have consistent been at the top of range or a point over. Even cutting my dose in half for a few weeks before the blood draw didn’t get it down. I donated for the first time ever a few weeks ago, but then immediately jumped on cycle so I couldn’t say how much it dropped it.
I also got diagnosed with sleep apnea and started a cpap too.
I think I might donate again after this cycle but before the next blood draw - I’m assuming H&H will be in range then.

I do have family members that have sleep apnea and polycythemia vera, so I’m probably more prone to this side.
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CPAP is going to bring it down for sure if you have diagnosed sleep apnea. The blood won’t need to over-oxygenate to compensate for lack of airflow nightly.
 
Hyde said:
CPAP is going to bring it down for sure if you have diagnosed sleep apnea. The blood won’t need to over-oxygenate to compensate for lack of airflow nightly.
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I am excited to see how much of an improvement this will make. I do feel more rested and refreshed in the morning. My face and neck are also noticeably less red/flush.
 
Hyde said:
Used 100-150mg of 1-Test Cyp for like 14 weeks last blast; didn’t make any special difference compared to the rest of the overall gear load.
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Is that injection? I've been out of the prohormone game for so long...are any of these of the legal variety around anymore?
 
My hemocrit will run in the 50-53 range and my Dr. likes under 50, so I donate ever 60 days, I also like to help out where I can, and this is one thing I can do to help.
 
Hyde said:
I’ve not heard anyone report particularly significant phlebotic value elevations with Trest. The month I injected some early in my last blast didn’t meaningfully affect end values.

Also, things do lower over time on their own.



Never needed to. End of this last run 8 weeks ago, my hemoglobin was like 17.3 and 52 hematocrit, RBC top of range, but I expect it to come down slightly over cruise. I’ll draw bloods again before another blast to make sure they’ve crept back to 17/50 per usual for me.
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Mine would get up to 54-55ish on the bigger cycles I use to run and then on cruise they drop back to normal over 8-12 weeks. Dr. At the time use to say that if blood pressure is in range and no other issues then he wasn't super worried. Apparently there's like some kind of 3 month turnover rate or something and he use to talk about the rule of three which I forget what it is but it has something to do with values being elevated more then a certain amount over a certain amount of time. "Don't quote me too hard on that, it's been a while, I could have screwed some of that up or forgotten a few things over the years lol"

Then in the past 2 years I haven't noticed it go up much at all on the little 600mg total cycles I been running. I also started boxing again about 2 years ago so I wonder if all that extra cardio and increasing water plays a role in why it stays lower now
 
My Dr. told me hydration is extra important if it is over 50.
 
Thick blood means everything works harder and pumps slower. It contributes to high BP, and thus organ load (especially kidney health & heart effort). And having high BP combined with very thick blood is what puts you at risk for a stroke.

Drinking water/hydration dilutes the blood and makes it pump easier. Baby aspirin, Nattokinase, HIGH doses of EPA, pine bark extract, and other compounds slick the blood/improve circulation. Water and some combination of these decrease your risk substantially.

Decreasing the speed you produce new red blood cells, like by lowering androgen supplementation, reducing iron intake, taking IP6 are all ways to mitigate elevated blood values.

Donating can immediately dump some blood & decrease levels, but does upregulate actual production that tends to promote a cycle of needing to donate routinely.

Increasing cardiovascular fitness lowers BP (and thus risk), and improves oxygenation so it helps balance new blood creation. Making sure you don’t have bad sleep apnea also maintains proper oxygenation - get a CPAP if you do.

So drink your water, take nattokinase, do your cardio, and control your bodyweight/blood pressure/sleep apnea. Do not abuse steroids for extended periods of time (or extreme dosages).
 
Hyde said:
Thick blood means everything works harder and pumps slower. It contributes to high BP, and thus organ load (especially kidney health & heart effort). And having high BP combined with very thick blood is what puts you at risk for a stroke.

Drinking water/hydration dilutes the blood and makes it pump easier. Baby aspirin, Nattokinase, HIGH doses of EPA, pine bark extract, and other compounds slick the blood/improve circulation. Water and some combination of these decrease your risk substantially.

Decreasing the speed you produce new red blood cells, like by lowering androgen supplementation, reducing iron intake, taking IP6 are all ways to mitigate elevated blood values.

Donating can immediately dump some blood & decrease levels, but does upregulate actual production that tends to promote a cycle of needing to donate routinely.

Increasing cardiovascular fitness lowers BP (and thus risk), and improves oxygenation so it helps balance new blood creation. Making sure you don’t have bad sleep apnea also maintains proper oxygenation - get a CPAP if you do.

So drink your water, take nattokinase, do your cardio, and control your bodyweight/blood pressure/sleep apnea. Do not abuse steroids for extended periods of time (or extreme dosages).
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Perfect, this is what people need to read, be smart, stay healthy !!
 
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