A little disappointed so far. Last cycle my pumps were all day and wicked vascularity. That was with a somewhat dirty bulk and 12 mg if Msten a day. Now doing 20 mg a day and 40mg Epi. Eating much cleaner but retention is not even close. Pumps are better than off cycl e but nothing like last time. After PCT and some off time with orals I'll be moving on to pinning. Hopefully the last few weeks here it kicks in and makes a big difference
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