Help with prohormone stack

[lmnopqbig]

Dude to where I live getting real roids is extremely difficult. I want to use some prohormones instead. I need some advise on high dose stacks that would give me nice bulking results

 

[faipdeooiad]

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain

 

[botk1161]

High dose you say.

 

[lmnopqbig]

High dose you say.

What do you mean

 

[botk1161]

Most people start by using epi andro solo followed by PCT. Do some research. Lots of threads on this site.

 

[Smont]

Dude to where I live getting real roids is extremely difficult. I want to use some prohormones instead. I need some advise on high dose stacks that would give me nice bulking results

The amount of good food you eat and the effectiveness of your training will determine your bulking gains. Also if your talking about the current legal prohormones, they are a good step above Natty, but there no steroid cycle. For shits and giggles.......
This is not a stack, these are doses for individual compounds and you can stack them or use 1. But trying to run a heavy duty prohormone or sarm cycle for 8-16 weeks is very expensive

4 andro 200-600mg
1 Andro 200-600mg
Epiandro 300-1200mg
Rad 140 20-60mg
LGD 4033 20-60mg
S23 20-60mg

Rad 140 in the presence of estrogen works a lot like trt.

4 andro is your only source of testosterone and estrogen

Epiandro is your only option for DHT

Rad is a Anabolic. These 3 would be the main component.

Starting doses for a decent strength cycle 4 Andro 300, epiandro 600, rad 20. This is a actual cycle I tell ppl when there scared to pin and scared of side effects. It's like a expensive knock off trt run.

Or you could keep searching and get a bottle or 2 of testosterone for cheaper.

Now regardless of weather or not you run a PH/Sarm/Steroid cycle, you need other stuff too.

AI
SERM
Both of these should always be on hand.

You should probably have something for blood pressure just in case

 

[Smont]

Now let's look at prices for a short 8 week run if you DONT increase the doses

4 andro, 300mg for 8 weeks, assuming a bottle lasts 30 days =$120

Epiandro, 600mg for 8 weeks $120

Rad 140 20mg 8 weeks $60

Ai $40

Serm $40

8 weeks=$380

 

[Smont]

If you have reasonable expectations, and you know what your doing in the gym, and the kitchen, and you got the $$. It's definitely better then natural supplements

 

[Ape McGrapes]

Most people start by using epi andro solo followed by PCT. Do some research. Lots of threads on this site.

He's going to be really disappointed if that's his first cycle, and I dont think Epiandro really needs a PCT. Atleast not serm based. Follow up with a decent test booster, and your good to go. Epiandro/Androsterone and DHT are minimally supressive, if at all.

What he wants is 1-Andro. Its the best muscle builder out of the Andros. Icon One would cover all his bases, and be a pretty effective first cycle. Definitely should run a PCT as insurance, after.

I actually will run Icon one + 330mg of hi-tech 1-test when recompi g. Makes a great addition to HRT(if you're on) Even with access to real AAS, I still really enjoy 1-Andro.

 

[Dustin07]

4 andro is your only source of testosterone and estrogen

did IML discontinue Gear Cream? it had a little bit of everything in it

 

[Dustin07]

He's going to be really disappointed if that's his first cycle, and I dont think Epiandro really needs a PCT. Atleast not serm based. Follow up with a decent test booster, and your good to go. Epiandro/Androsterone and DHT are minimally supressive, if at all.

I have run cycles from 600 to 1300mg on epiandro and always did fine coming off with something like M-Test or Alpha Gel/ Sustain Alpha, no problem. I did keep tamoxifen on hand but never used it.

 

[Smont]

did IML discontinue Gear Cream? it had a little bit of everything in it

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Idk, I've actually never used a product from IML, I think Hyde has used that product tho. I'm not a fan of 1 Andro personally because I get crappy feeling on it, at least I did 10 years ago or whenever the last time I used it was, but that product don't look bad at all. If those doses are 1 serving, then 3 a day would be a nice little cycle. I'd still want to add a lot more epiandro to that stack. But for someone who's got 1-2 basic prohormone cycles under there belt, gear cream could definitely be a option

 

[Dustin07]

Idk, I've actually never used a product from IML, I think Hyde has used that product tho. I'm not a fan of 1 Andro personally because I get crappy feeling on it, at least I did 10 years ago or whenever the last time I used it was, but that product don't look bad at all. If those doses are 1 serving, then 3 a day would be a nice little cycle. I'd still want to add a lot more epiandro to that stack. But for someone who's got 1-2 basic prohormone cycles under there belt, gear cream could definitely be a option

I ran it in summer of 2024. It was a bit of a sleeper in that I didn't notice much other than the same level of fatigue I get from epiandro <-- which I think is because I'm able to reach deeper when on epiandro, I have bigger sessions, get more done, and have more recovery to get through. I probably wouldn't hesitate to run it again. it's pretty expensive but when you break down the prices you posted above, if you took gear cream and then added like 150-300mg of another epiandro source with it you'd probably make out ok.

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Aug 28, 2024

That’s a nice session! How’s the run of gear cream going/ feeling?

weird! I'm basically unaware of it at this point. No sense of euphoria at application. I do look forward to it because it smells great, but the carrier is completely light on skin, no need for lotion etc. I have a feeling it would be a wicked addition to a bulk/strength cycle because my numbers are staying strong despite still cutting fat/weight and I did have that squat PR last week.

I peaked at 207 in Dec and averaged 200-203 in June.
So far this cut has me down to 186.8lbs this morning.
I wanted to see if...

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