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Lonerider

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Morning guys and gals,

Right now I'm following a keto diet for the past 8 weeks.i adjust calories depending on how I feel free and look. About two weeks ago I started a DAA cycle with Revolution Black PCT as my AI. Probably going to run that for the full 8 weeks. My question to y'all would be should I run Mtest and Inhibit-E along with it? Or do you think that'd be Overkill? Keep in mind I only have enough Revolution Black for 4 weeks. Also what's your stance on Anabeta Elite with XGels on Keto? I've only ever run both of those when I was carb cycling.

Thanks
 
I would personally save ABE and Xgels for after Keto, if you plan on lean bulking down the road.

I would start M-Test now. I'm not a fan of DAA, so I myself don't expect much from it. I would not stack inhibit-e and your other AI though. You want to control E, not crush it. In the future you could give Alphamax XT a run. That gives you the AI already built in, and is very high quality like M-Test.
 
Lonerider said:
Morning guys and gals,

Right now I'm following a keto diet for the past 8 weeks.i adjust calories depending on how I feel free and look. About two weeks ago I started a DAA cycle with Revolution Black PCT as my AI. Probably going to run that for the full 8 weeks. My question to y'all would be should I run Mtest and Inhibit-E along with it? Or do you think that'd be Overkill? Keep in mind I only have enough Revolution Black for 4 weeks. Also what's your stance on Anabeta Elite with XGels on Keto? I've only ever run both of those when I was carb cycling.

Thanks
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I would drop the DAA personally. Unless you have low testosterone levels, it won'to do much.

Twenty-four males, with a minimum of two years' experience in resistance training, (age, 24.5 ± 3.2 y; training experience, 3.4 ± 1.4 y; height, 178.5 ± 6.5 cm; weight, 84.7 ± 7.2 kg; bench press 1-RM, 105.3 ± 15.2 kg) were randomised into one of three groups: 6 g.d(-1) plain flour (D0); 3 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D3); and 6 g.d(-1) of d-aspartic acid (D6). Participants performed a two-week washout period, training four days per week. This continued through the experimental period (14 days), with participants consuming the supplement in the morning. Serum was analysed for levels of testosterone, estradiol, sex hormone binding globulin, albumin and free testosterone was determined by calculation.

D-aspartic acid supplementation revealed no main effect for group in: estradiol; sex-hormone-binding-globulin; and albumin. Total testosterone was significantly reduced in D6 (P = 0.03). Analysis of free testosterone showed that D6 was significantly reduced as compared to D0 (P = 0.005), but not significantly different to D3. Analysis did not reveal any significant differences between D3 and D0. No significant correlation between initial total testosterone levels and responsiveness to d-aspartic acid was observed (r = 0.10, P = 0.70).

The present study demonstrated that a daily dose of six grams of d-aspartic acid decreased levels of total testosterone and free testosterone (D6), without any concurrent change in other hormones measured. Three grams of d-aspartic acid had no significant effect on either testosterone markers. It is currently unknown what effect this reduction in testosterone will have on strength and hypertrophy gains.
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Resistance-trained men resistance trained 4 times/wk for 28 days while orally ingesting either 3 g of placebo or 3 g of D-ASP. Data were analyzed with 2 × 2 analysis of variance (P < .05).

The gonadal hormones were unaffected by 28 days of D-ASP supplementation and not associated with the observed increases in muscle strength and mass. Therefore, at the dose provided, D-ASP supplementation is ineffective in up-regulating the activity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis and has no anabolic or ergogenic effects in skeletal muscle.
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The first study I referenced regarding DAA was published recently (2015), and used subjects with at least 2 years experience resistance training, and the study also had subjects train 4-days a week. If you look at the full text (which I put a link to below), you'll see that both 3g and 6g DAA REDUCED free testosterone relative to no DAA (although the decrease was only significant in the 6g group):
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Additionally, I would drop the Revolution Black PCT and go with M Test instead. M-test is much better well rounded than the other product with better ingredients. I would not run Inhibit E with M-Test though since M-Test has ingredients to control cortisol. Remember, you want to control cortisol, not eliminate it. You could save the Inhibit E for a later run or keep it on hand in case cortisol levels rise.

ABE and X-Gels can be used during any type of diet. I would just suggesting utilizing them during a time where you are in a caloric surplus.
 
As states above, DAA is pretty much bogus and has shown to DROP testosterone levels at 6g daily.
 
I think you are much better off running M-Test and Inhibit-E as your run. Much more comprehensive and it would be a nice run.
 
Gotta go with the group here and say M-test is a much better option than DAA solo... and inhibit e or the rev can be run along with it but I wouldnt run both. personally id choose inhibit over rev simply due to the effects being more well proven than rev.
 
Awesome quality information guys thanks for the help. Do you think I should run anything else with Mtest for better deliverence? Like a NO booster?
 
Lonerider said:
Awesome quality information guys thanks for the help. Do you think I should run anything else with Mtest for better deliverence? Like a NO booster?
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Not needed. It's built to be a standalone.
 
All solid info in here. What is your current goal with implementing the keto diet? I'm assuming you're cutting or trying to lose body fat. M-test and Inhibit-e would be helpful during keto, but I would agree that ABE and X-Gels would be better if used while consuming carbs.

For future stacks you may want to check out Alphamax XT as well - it is an all in one product that helps to increase natural test and control cortisol and estrogen. Instead of using two separate products, Alphamax XT could serve as a solid one product solution.
 
Agreed! Do the keto with Mtest and save the ABE + X gels and throw in alphamax XT and that would be a solid natty stack to go into after keto when you start consuming carbs again.
 
john.patterson said:
All solid info in here. What is your current goal with implementing the keto diet? I'm assuming you're cutting or trying to lose body fat. M-test and Inhibit-e would be helpful during keto, but I would agree that ABE and X-Gels would be better if used while consuming carbs.

For future stacks you may want to check out Alphamax XT as well - it is an all in one product that helps to increase natural test and control cortisol and estrogen. Instead of using two separate products, Alphamax XT could serve as a solid one product solution.
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Yeah I've been on Keto for about 8 weeks now. Dropped about 20 lbs and a significant amount of body fat. I'm looking to lean out some more before July and August when full beach season gets into swing.
 
LeanEngineer said:
Agreed! Do the keto with Mtest and save the ABE + X gels and throw in alphamax XT and that would be a solid natty stack to go into after keto when you start consuming carbs again.
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That sounds great, I haven't run alphamax xt yet but I've run ABE,X gels & gms I loved it.
 
Lonerider said:
Yeah I've been on Keto for about 8 weeks now. Dropped about 20 lbs and a significant amount of body fat. I'm looking to lean out some more before July and August when full beach season gets into swing.
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Awesome progress man, it sounds like keto is treating you well. If you've run X-gels in the past and enjoyed it, I would give Alphamax XT and X-gels a consideration for your next stack - it's my favorite natty stack hands down. I've run both of these products during a lean bulk/recomp and I felt that I was able to stay leaner than usual and I saw a nice strength and size increase
 
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