help with my cycle!

akomabutisakama

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ok how does this sound.

i have 1 bottle of m1t, 1,4 andro, and 4ad i was thinkink about stacking like this

week1- 4ad 300mg
1,4 andro 400mg
week2-4ad 300mg
1,4 andro 400mg
week3-4ad 300mg
1,4 andro 400mg
week4-4ad 300mg
m1t 20 mg
week5-m1t 20mg
6oxo
week6-6oxo
week7-6oxo until bottle finishes
 
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wait until your older, your body is no where near done growing and your test levels are the highest they will ever be

by using ph/ps/aas at your age you risk stunting your growth and permanently screwing up your hormonal levels
 
glenihan said:
wait until your older, your body is no where near done growing and your test levels are the highest they will ever be

by using ph/ps/aas at your age you risk stunting your growth and permanently screwing up your hormonal levels
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ive done researc on sides and im willing to take the risk and my doctor said i have stopped growin anyway so thats okay i just want to know what would e the best way to stack these
 
akomabutisakama said:
ive done researc on sides and im willing to take the risk and my doctor said i have stopped growin anyway so thats okay i just want to know what would e the best way to stack these
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doesnt have anything to do with "sides" - it's this:

1) even a mild PH like 1,4andro will shut down test - not a system you want to mess with at 17
2) M1T is the harshest legal hormonal substance available - and you think it'd be good to do it for your 1st cycle?

if this and countless other arguments dont convince you - then you're a fool. but even fools deserve good advice (we were all fools once)....so:

1,4andro for only 3 weeks is retarded
week 5 using M1T without continuing 4AD is equally retarded
6OXO PCT for 3 weeks in insufficient
you need to take, at the very least, the following on and off-cycle: milk thistle, NAC, ALA. hawthorn berry optional.

kid - just return the stuff you bought and hit the fridge hard for the next couple years. maybe take some creatine, fish oil, multi-v, basic stuff...you'll grow like a weed, and thank yourself later.
 
At your age, I would be more worried about affecting your body's natural test production than stunted growth. You really could end up on hormone replacement therapy for your entire adult life.

It's your decision, but you owe yourself to at least research the long term effects of steroid use in teens. Health problems are not worth being able to bench more than your friends. I know many guys start at age 19-20, but 17 is waaay too young IMO.
 
ok well i am just going to do 1cycle becAuse of the ban but i will take out m1t and add 3 more weeks of 1,4 ando and 2 more weeks of 4ad
and finish up with milk thistle and 6oxo for 6 weeks

two more ques
should i take milk thistle throughout the cycle

would nolva or clomid be better then 6oxo if so where can i buy
 
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akomabutisakama said:
ok well i am just going to do 1cycle becAuse of the ban but i will take out m1t and add 3 more weeks of 1,4 ando and 2 more weeks of 4ad
and finish up with milk thistle and 6oxo for 6 weeks

two more ques
should i take milk thistle throughout the cycle

would nolva or clomid be better then 6oxo if so where can i buy
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6 week 1,4andro / 4-ad cycle should be pretty good.

milk thistle not required as nothing is methylated. cant hurt though. also, 6OXO is fine for that cycle but nolva is cheaper and more effective.
 
akomabutisakama said:
ok well i am just going to do 1cycle becAuse of the ban but i will take out m1t and add 3 more weeks of 1,4 ando and 2 more weeks of 4ad
and finish up with milk thistle and 6oxo for 6 weeks

two more ques
should i take milk thistle throughout the cycle

would nolva or clomid be better then 6oxo if so where can i buy
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jesus what part of this will stunt your growth and could permantently screw up your hormonal levels do you not understand?
you could potentially end up on hormone replacement therapy for your adult life? why on earth would you risk this when your test levels are at the highest they will ever be?


not to mention the fact that if you have to ask if nolva or clomid would be better than 6oxo you have NO BUSINESS USING THESE DRUGS!

do you even know what the difference between nolva and 6oxo is in terms of what they are classified as?

this is not like drinking a beer or smoking a joint -- these are HORMONES that interupt your body's natural production -- sit back and think about all this ... my god

wait until you are older and just use real AAS, they are more effective and everyone should do at BARE MINIMUM one year's research before using AAS, so within the 4 years you should wait to use them you can gain a TON of knowledge that will help you use intelligently and risk the major problems that can occur with improper use
 
Geez kid listen to these guys. You're too damn young. Screw the ban. By the time you'll be old enough to use these substances something better will surely be on the market.

Do you even know how to diet for mass, or train for strength? If you think you need hormones at your age, obviously not.

BV
 
IF that is the case then you should be growing just fine ... my guess is you are a) overtraining b) not eating enough (six meals a day, with only one of those counting as a shake (postworkout) and 2x bodyweight in grams of protein) c) both of the above

at your age you WILL grow if you train and eat properly throw in some creatine and glutamine and you'll be fine
 
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