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Help with Epistane

Rugger

Rugger

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Greetings,

I'm beginning to plan an epistane cycle with assumptions of starting somewhere in the first week or two of May. I'm still learning so lenience is appreciated. I've been lifting for several years, am on a cut right now. 5'10 185ish 11-12%bf probably. My diet, while I haven't even begun to think about it during the cycle, will probably be somewhere around 4k-4.5k calories with probably 300+ grams of protein.

While I'm thinking about epidrol right now, I may do havoc is nutra gets it back in stock by then. I might bridge into m-drol if the first couple weeks go alright. I'll figure out dosing later, right now I just want to get a list going so I can set aside some money.

On cycle/4 weeks
-Epidrol ED 4 weeks
-Cycle Support ED, 1 week load
-Fish oil, probably 20g ED
-Multi ED
-Propecia ED (already taking)
-Taurine if needed, as needed



PCT/4 weeks
Nolva 40-30-20-10
Activate Extreme ED (anything better?)
Cycle Support ED week 5-7
-Propecia ED (already taking)
-Multi ED
-Fishoil probably 20g ED
-Creatine ED


Questions:
1) Anything look terribly out of place or missing?
2) Does epi bridge to mdrol sound logical or totally retarded?
3) If mdrol/epi is alright, which should go first? What should the bridge look like?

Anything comments, suggestions, insults are appreciated.
 
Rugger1 said:
Advanced PCT (necessary? AI)


Anything comments, suggestions, insults are appreciated.
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Having an AI on board for PCT, in my opinion, is counter productive.

As i understand it you want you Estro levels to come back up which in turn makes your Test come back up. And you take Nolva to keep that Estro from acting on your new tissue, while at the same time forcing your body to counteract all this new Estro with more Test.
 
That makes sense. I just don't want estro levels to climb too high, even after nolva and look blobish. After all, I have spend the last 2 months cutting.
 
well if you havent taken mdrol i would say just leave it out and do the epi cycle, bump dosages as needed. everything else looks legit too me. maybe look into something for an anti cortisol. Get some sort of NO or Creatine product in there for PCT too.
 
pistonpump said:
well if you havent taken mdrol i would say just leave it out and do the epi cycle, bump dosages as needed. everything else looks legit too me. maybe look into something for an anti cortisol. Get some sort of NO or Creatine product in there for PCT too.
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Alright, I'll hold on mdrol given that this will be my first experience.

On another note, would something like anabolic pump prove to be more beneficial during cycle? Seems like if there is any great time to use it, it would be during a quick epi run. Thoughts?
 
Rugger1 said:
Alright, I'll hold on mdrol given that this will be my first experience.

On another note, would something like anabolic pump prove to be more beneficial during cycle? Seems like if there is any great time to use it, it would be during a quick epi run. Thoughts?
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I'd keep it simple and focus on eating the right foods and training really hard.
 
RenegadeRows said:
I'd keep it simple and focus on eating the right foods and training really hard.
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i agree. i mean i think adding other supplements in the cycle can be benefiecial but AP is kinda more complicated with the dose timing and all that. Focus on diet and training maybe throw in some cissus, i know i did because my joints were creeking after a while.
 
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