Help with doses

SamMontgomery

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Hey guys, I'm going to run 4 weeks of the following supplements:

HardcoreBULK:
Methyl-1-Etiocholenol-Epietiocholanolove (20mg), N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine, Milk Thistle (80% silymarin), TUDCA, Tongkat Ali (long jack)

SpawnV2:
1500mg of... Aurantii nobilis percicapium extract, arachidonic acid, ctlycyrhizae radix, atraclylodis lanceae rhizome, hesperidin, stinging nettle extract, boron citrate (5% boron), zingiber officinale, ZR-2-Methylamino, butanedioic

HardcorePOST:
600mg of... Mucuna puriens, milk thistle, N-Acetyl cysteine, adrost 3,5-diene-7 17 dione

I know I've asked for some help from some of you guys about this before, Woody Jebrook mike33511 but I have two last questions.

1. should I take additional milk thistle above and beyond what's already in the "HardcorePOST" supplement?
2. that last compound in the POST supplement, "adrost 3,5-diene-7 17 dione", what are your thoughts on it as far as it being strong enough to counter the 20mg of M1A in the BULK product?

Thanks again guys!
 
Take additional NAC not milk thistle
That's Arimistane which isn't going to do anything really. You need a SERM post cycle - especially for M1A
 
Woody said:
Take additional NAC not milk thistle
That's Arimistane which isn't going to do anything really. You need a SERM post cycle - especially for M1A
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Ok. Is there a specific NAC product that you recommend and at what mg do you recommend? Also, what does NAC stand for?
 
SamMontgomery said:
Awesome. Thanks. Is there a specific brand or manufacturer that you like the best for that compound?
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I haven't looked into it on it's own, but I assume companies like NOW or Jarrow would sell NAC. If you want a full on-cycle support with it, Olympus Labs Arimicare Pro is good
 
jathan_howe said:
I haven't looked into it on it's own, but I assume companies like NOW or Jarrow would sell NAC. If you want a full on-cycle support with it, Olympus Labs Arimicare Pro is good
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This would be ideal especially on something like M1A, but at a minimum add extra NAC.
 
Woody said:
This would be ideal especially on something like M1A, but at a minimum add extra NAC.
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Ok, so I'll run Olympus Labs Ar1macare Pro while on the M1A product, what would be a good PCT for when I come off it? Or do you think it'd be enough to run that Ar1macare on-cycle and just use the HardcorePOST product that I mentioned originally?
 
SamMontgomery said:
Ok, so I'll run Olympus Labs Ar1macare Pro while on the M1A product, what would be a good PCT for when I come off it? Or do you think it'd be enough to run that Ar1macare on-cycle and just use the HardcorePOST product that I mentioned originally?
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Definitely gonna need a SERM like Clomid or Nolva. HardcorePost isn't going to do anything to restart your HTPA. You'll be in for a long recovery with that.
 
Woody said:
Definitely gonna need a SERM like Clomid or Nolva. HardcorePost isn't going to do anything to restart your HTPA. You'll be in for a long recovery with that.
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Ok. I think I got everything straight.
Run Olympus Labs Ar1macare Pro on-cycle
Run Clmoid (25mg / day) post cycle for 30 days

...right?
 
I cant speak for this M1A product, but I recently took a pharma grade M1A product and holy crap it was strong. Granted, I took between 30-60mg/day. Stuff aint nothing to play with. SERM is required, IMO unless you want to have a really bad crash afterwards.

Good luck and be sure to drink 1.5 - 2G water daily. I perferred Liv52 DS to other stuff like NAC and Taurine. Works really well to keep your appetite good and water flowing properly.
 
fueledpassion said:
I cant speak for this M1A product, but I recently took a pharma grade M1A product and holy crap it was strong. Granted, I took between 30-60mg/day. Stuff aint nothing to play with. SERM is required, IMO unless you want to have a really bad crash afterwards.

Good luck and be sure to drink 1.5 - 2G water daily. I perferred Liv52 DS to other stuff like NAC and Taurine. Works really well to keep your appetite good and water flowing properly.
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What SERM did you use? Also, what were your body changes during your first 4 weeks?
 
SamMontgomery said:
What SERM did you use? Also, what were your body changes during your first 4 weeks?
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Well, I didn't do a PCT because I just cruise with 150mg T/EQ when I'm not blasting. That said, when I do periodically come off, I use HCG and Clomid, always.

I put on 9lbs of mass and lost a little body fat. This is significant considering that I ate very little to try and keep my gains dry and lean. Mind you, my receptors are extremely familiar with androgens so I dont blow up anymore when I take stuff. Seriously, I could take 1500mg of T and I would be lucky to get 10lbs from it. I did not have interest in packing on indescriminatory weight. Stuff rounds the muscle out, fills it out greatly, and increased hardness a little too. Stuff is awesome. Better than dbol, dmz and msten sure. Kicks in hard on day 4 if run at higher doses.

Watch out for blood pressure increases though.
 
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