Help, me=focked... Please advise.

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canadian champ said:
1. How did your doctor diagnos hepatitis without a liver panel?

2. The itch is common in several types of hep including non-viral. It is mostly idiopathic but can be caused by a related condition called lichen planus. Milk thistle can help this to some degree.

3. Vicodin can damage the liver, especially taken with alcohol and, I presume, anabolics. The same can be said of antibiotics. And, unfortunately, Tylenol (Acetaminophen) is also liver toxic.

4. Tamoxifen (Nolva) is also known to be liver toxic.

I hate to say it bro, but perhaps some of this could have been avoided if you had looked into the side effects/potential damaging effects of some of the compounds you were taking.

I wish you the best of luck with your recovery.

cc


Nothing I say is true, do not listen to me. I do not exist. Blah, blah, blah, absolve me of any legal responsibility. I am fictious and any information I provide should be regarded as such. Please consult your doctor for all medical related issues.
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I didnt drink and take vicidin on cycle, or even pre, i did everything right, i took vicidin before i knew it was my liver, i was under the impression my cycle went flawless and i was 1 week after i stopped so i figured it would be ok to use vicidin for a day because my wrist was killing me, and i thought i had skin mites from jujitsu practice.

That being said, i followed every protocal and knew the risk, i didnt know that i could get hep and that could cause me to itch intil i talked to my doctor, i've never heard of anyone getting hep from a short cycle espically when they were pre loaded on all the support supps and followed every golden rule.

If i had known that was a sign i would have discontiued my cycle sooner, as you could see i thought the itching was unrelated to anything and thought was a bug problem as we have a new dog(with a few flees)

Thanks for the reply though
dr liftalot
 
Dr Liftalot said:
i did do blood work, and he wanted it redon to recheck everything
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Do you have access to the results? Also, you were taking antibiotics, tylenol, vicadin all at the same time... that alone should raise some eyebrows for potential liver damage. Live and learn brother, hope everything works out.
cc
 
If u have been diagnosed with manic depression, among your current concerns, be VERY careful coming off superdrol, it can and it almost sounds like it is causing u major anxiety over this situation at hand, u r way too young to have this much drama in your life, learn from this and good luck.....
 
canadian champ said:
It can be an indication of hepatitis. It is caused by an unknown compound that accumulates in the skin.
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Hmmm interesting, sounds like I'm going to make a doc appointment while I'm still taking TTA to determine if it affects the liver in a negative way.

Sorry didn't mean to get off topic
 
Although no supplement should be taken lightly, I still believe this is a bit ofa stretch.

Anadrol, the only steroid PROVEN to have the ability to cause liver tumors, is PRESCRIBED at 1-5 mg/kg / day for periods of 6 months or more. In case you don't do the math, for someone like me at 100kg, that' means I'd have to take between 100 and 500mg of anadrol a day for 6 months as prescribed by a doctor.
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Yes, a bit of a stretch and I'm not disputing that toxicity may be hyped, but for the trade off of sides/negatives from use of orals compared to the results/sides of injectables orals are harder on the system.

If he had used say 500mg of test for 10 weeks as opposed to his oral cycle I don't think his liver values would be a concern comparitivly.
 
McBurly said:
Hmmm interesting, sounds like I'm going to make a doc appointment while I'm still taking TTA to determine if it affects the liver in a negative way.

Sorry didn't mean to get off topic
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Good idea. Would be interested in the results.
cc
 
If depression is a major concern coming off cycle, I think you should drop the Tomxifen and pick up some Toemifene as it is much softer on the liver and likely as effective as a SERM (do not ask for sources).

cc

Nothing I say is true, do not listen to me. I do not exist. Blah, blah, blah, absolve me of any legal responsibility. I am fictious and any information I provide should be regarded as such. Please consult your doctor for all medical related issues.
 
Definitely get the tests, and follow advice here.

Also, Liv.52 by Himalaya is a tried and true liver aid, with a good track record if the elevated values are just the result of the orals, and not indicative of something bigger and badder you need to deal with.
 
canadian champ said:
Do you have access to the results? Also, you were taking antibiotics, tylenol, vicadin all at the same time... that alone should raise some eyebrows for potential liver damage. Live and learn brother, hope everything works out.
cc
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No i wasnt, reread...

I took a week after i stopped cycle, a couple of days before i went to the doctor for my itching i went to the Urgent care for my wrist that was fractored i took it for one day.

Reread
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
I've never heard of Hep from anabolic steroids, but that doesnt mean its not possible. Jaundice, and even liver tumors from LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG term use of anadrol I've heard of, but never hep.
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Bobo mentioned that Chemo told him he'd (Chemo) gotten jaundice from methyl-trenbolone.
 
I haven't had accese to my blood values yet, but will probably have them by friday, will post for review.
Thanks
Dr liftalot
 
DO NOT tell your doc. of the supps you were cycling.

You can jeapardize your ability to get health insurance.
Not saying you will be dropped - but it's a serious possiblity.
 
I would stop taking every single supplement, drink plenty of water, and wait as calmly as possible until you get the results on Friday. Good luck and God bless.
 
This thread is rather pointless at this current time. Without any real data it is just tossing out different possibilities.
Has anyone suggested poison ivy yet?

Need advice, stop using all your supplements. Visit your physician and get better informed about the how, why, and what next.


Besides that, this forum has rules. Being too young is one of them.
 
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