Help critique my friend's cycle plan

[atlbrvfan]

He is wanting to frontload a 10 week cycle of Test Prop/Tren with Superdrol. Here is the outline of what he wants to do.

Weeks 1-3 Superdrol 20mg ED
Weeks 3-6 Test Prop 100 mg EOD
Weeks 7-12 Test Prop 100/Tren 75 EOD

He is planning on using Arimidex as an AI and also using Clen 2weeks on/2 off a couple times during his cycle.

His PCT plan is Clomid, Cissus RX, and Clen. What do you guys think of his plans? I told him I am not sure the Cissus would benefit him during PCT. Help?

 

[MPFit]

Okay the reason for a frontload is to see results while the longer esther anabolic is still taking time to kick in.
By running superdrol without taking the prop or tren.. your not really kickstarting anything- your just running superdrol than switching compounds..
I would suggest:

Weeks 1-3 SD @ 20mg
Weeks 1-10 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD

Now for the Tren: Since you didn't clearify what esther is attatched to the tren- you have options:
If it is Tren Enanthate : maybe 200-250mg/Week
if it is tren acetate: then you will want the 75mg EOD
Either way- you can run the tren from week 1 to week 10...

Another thing- most people do not front load short esthered roids (Like test prop/tren acetate) because they don't take more than a week or two to kick in... they frontload enanthates/cypionates/undeconates because it will take at least a couple weeks to see results.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Why frontload a short ester like Prop?...He should only need a kick start on a long estered Test cycle.

Edit: Didn't see MPFIT beat me to it.

 

[atlbrvfan]

Maybe frontload isn't the word I should have used. His injectables will not be here for a couple of weeks and he wants to go ahead and start taking the Superdrol before hand. The Tren he has is Acetate. Can he really take Tren for 10 weeks?

 

[JBlaze]

Maybe frontload isn't the word I should have used. His injectables will not be here for a couple of weeks and he wants to go ahead and start taking the Superdrol before hand. The Tren he has is Acetate. Can he really take Tren for 10 weeks?

I'd personally never start a cycle until I had everything I needed for it, including post cycle therapy.

I'm not really a fan of this cycle, but if you're friend insists on running it this way, I'd have him run the test prop for an extra week after coming off the tren.

 

[atlbrvfan]

Not a fan of the gear involved or the way the cycle is laid out?

 

[JBlaze]

Not a fan of the gear involved or the way the cycle is laid out?

Structure. The gear is fine, though I think it's kind of a long cycle for EOD injects. Does he have experience with pinning?

 

[atlbrvfan]

I am pretty sure this will be his 4th. I told him to run the Tren weeks 1-6 and the Test weeks 1-10. The Superdrol I guess will just be a bonus to what he will gain. So I guess he could do this.

Weeks 1-3 Superdrol 20 mg ED
Weeeks 3-8 Test Prop 100 EOD/Tren Ace 75 EOD
Weeks 9-10 Test Prop 100 EOD

I also advised some milk thistle during the Superdrol. Do you guys think Clomid alone will be enough for PCT. He also has Clen, Cissus, Trib, and Rebound on hand.

 

[JBlaze]

I am pretty sure this will be his 4th. I told him to run the Tren weeks 1-6 and the Test weeks 1-10. The Superdrol I guess will just be a bonus to what he will gain. So I guess he could do this.

Weeks 1-3 Superdrol 20 mg ED
Weeeks 3-8 Test Prop 100 EOD/Tren Ace 75 EOD
Weeks 9-10 Test Prop 100 EOD

I also advised some milk thistle during the Superdrol. Do you guys think Clomid alone will be enough for post cycle therapy. He also has Clen, Cissus, Trib, and Rebound on hand.

I like these two options a lot better. Since it's his 4th cycle, I assume he's a pretty big guy...another option could be upping the prop a bit:

Test Prop Wk 1-10 @ 150mg/EOD
Tren Ace Wk 1-6 @ 75mg/EOD

 

[IFIWAS]

No matter what you do run the Test atleast 2 weeks past the Tren, to keep the ole pecker happy.

And personally I would do ED with the Prop/Tren seems to work alot better that way to me than EOD.