Help, advice, and experiences with tren

[Demgainz]

Looking at a couple of runs right now. One of them being Test Cyp at 150 a week (trt protocol) and Tren Ace at 300 a week with my current AI dosage of 1mg a week of arimidex. I really don’t want to have to use caber or prami.

 

[swimfan65]

swimfan65 a little off topic but then again maybe not off topic due to considering future runs. I have read that you are on abombs now. It seems like you are liking the strength gains. How is it going so far. From everything I have read on anadrol it is one of the only dht derivatives that is highly estrogenic. On top of that it is said to not matter whether or not you take AI while on it because it doesn’t convert. Some suggest the compound itself is estrogenic. Doesn’t really make any sense to me. Anyway, it suggested to take nolva, however, it is highly recommended to not take nolva while on 19 nors such as deca or tren.

All is good on Anadrol. 100 mgs a day with 150 of test prop eod. Will be easing into 750 of test e shortly. Hate all the pinning..my ass is killing me. The only sides from the anadrol is back pumps, slightly elevated BP, small tension head ache at times, and get a little dizzy on max effort sets. No estrogen related sides at all. No water retention. I have a pharmacy of preventive drugs if anything does pop up, when you've been doing this awhile you develop quite a stock pile. I like this much better then dbol..just my preferance though.

 

[swimfan65]

You don't run anything without test but maybe that's included when you say on its own? Mast is to people in top shape, tren wouldnt really blow me away with just test. Now stacking it with mast, anadrol or whatever and you have a serious thing going on.

Just me, but I'm pretty sure anadrol, test, and tren would be to much for me. That would kick my ass for sure. And ive been doing this for awhile

 

[Chados]

Just me, but I'm pretty sure anadrol, test, and tren would be to much for me. That would kick my ass for sure. And ive been doing this for awhile

Anadrol never gave me problems with or without tren. Tren alone made me tired as hell first two weeks, the next two were fine and the rest of the weeks night sweat. But yeah you can't just think about sides in what you feel, you also have to think about the sides you can't feel and yeah tren anadrol can cause some problems now or later.

 

[swimfan65]

Anadrol never gave me problems with or without tren. Tren alone made me tired as hell first two weeks, the next two were fine and the rest of the weeks night sweat. But yeah you can't just think about sides in what you feel, you also have to think about the sides you can't feel and yeah tren anadrol can cause some problems now or later.

My tren sides suck. For me, it's like meth. I've never used meth, but tren pins me to the wall. No sleep..at all..for days, sweats, can't eat, and a raging all consuming sex drive. The benefit in the gym often does not make it worth it..but sometimes you find a sweet tren test mix and it can't be beat.

 

[Demgainz]

No one else wants to chime in on a test to tren ratio?

I am reading all over the different boards about everyone’s opinions and research. It almost seems like depending on what board you are on the consensus leans to one side or the other. Almost as if no one has their own opinions or have done their own research and just spews what the general consensus is. I have even went to the famous swarms site that every mine hates here and have listened to that guy state that it should be a one to one ratio and makes the most logical sense. Well, to me regarding sides, “competing receptors”, and all that other good stuff it doesn’t really make much sense to me. But the. Again I have never ran tren before so who am I to say.

Hoping for more people here to share their experience because this message board seems to not follow what people say just for the sake of it.

So far I think I most likely have my layout which would be
150-200 Test Cyp once a week
50-75 tren a eod or M/W/F don’t think I am comfortable with the injection sites I have. (Currently have 4 : 2 delts and 2 quads)
1mg of arimidex a week

Was thinking of using mast too due to it’s anti estrogen qualities maybe 150 mast e twice a week totaling 300.

 

[Nac]

But youll find 9/10 personal experience trumps logic.

Ill probably never try running test higher than tren. I honestly see no point. Id rather miss out on potential gainz running test lower if it means I also miss out on undesirable sides. Anyway, I find tren potent enough I simply dont need to try pushing the test dose. So trt/cruise dose with tren makes most sense, and my personal experience backs that.

However, if I ran higher test and had a great run I could care less about any logical arguments or opinions against doing so.

Like I said, personal experience will tend to trump any logic or theory.

 

[Demgainz]

I have posted this question in another post but wanted to ask it here to try and get as much feedback as I possibly can. Has anyone here successfully used vitamin b6 during a tren cycle to combat sides?

 

[Cgkone]

Those low doses should be easy breezy bro
Run the tren. I bet you bump it up

 

[Chados]

I have posted this question in another post but wanted to ask it here to try and get as much feedback as I possibly can. Has anyone here successfully used vitamin b6 during a tren cycle to combat sides?

It doesn't work, use cardarine. Tren can be horrible for some people, maybe not the whole cycle but some days you can be super tired, anxious and paranoid and out of breath at the gym. Tren can be used very low and with tren more so then other steroids I feel that food can turn it from a not so much of a bulker to the most effective bulker cause of the nutrient partioning. It feels like you almost have to overeat to get the full potential. At a cut its obviously about keeping calories lower.

 

[Demgainz]

It doesn't work, use cardarine. Tren can be horrible for some people, maybe not the whole cycle but some days you can be super tired, anxious and paranoid and out of breath at the gym. Tren can be used very low and with tren more so then other steroids I feel that food can turn it from a not so much of a bulker to the most effective bulker cause of the nutrient partioning. It feels like you almost have to overeat to get the full potential. At a cut its obviously about keeping calories lower.

With vitamin b6 use I am talking more about prolactin sides. From what I am gathering cardarine is used to help with pulmonary issues. There are actual multiple studies that state and conclude that b6 absolutely helps with prolactin issues but I wanted to know if it would suffice with tren and if anyone here on this forum used it with success.

 

[Chados]

With vitamin b6 use I am talking more about prolactin sides. From what I am gathering cardarine is used to help with pulmonary issues. There are actual multiple studies that state and conclude that b6 absolutely helps with prolactin issues but I wanted to know if it would suffice with tren and if anyone here on this forum used it with success.

Helping is one thing, preventing is another. There's no way a vitamin can match caber here and I don't think it's smart to try either.

 

[Demgainz]

Helping is one thing, preventing is another. There's no way a vitamin can match caber here and I don't think it's smart to try either.

Yes I understand what you are saying but maybe things were "lost in translation" here. The first line in your last post was, "it doesn't work. Use cardarine." So I wasn't exactly sure of what you were trying to get across or what exactly you were referring to, hence my response. I am essentially looking for more real world experiences with the use of tren and b6. My best friend as well as others have used tren without caber, prami, ect. except for the use of an anti estrogen and they have no problems at all. Granted my best friend is a lot more experienced in the use of the compound and is using other compounds as well(mast, a bombs, test). Just looking for more with similar experiences. Yes, I know everyone is different.