HELP 1st test E cycle, Insulin syringe ?

cgreid3

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He fellas ive bee trainings seriously for over a decade im 34 and ive ran serveral sarm, prohormone and recently a relatively weak AAS (anavar). I decided to do my first test cycle of 400mgs and to use Insulin needles bc of the many benefits/convenience mentioned all over the net. My problem is i have no idea how to properly convert the amount drawn in the insulin syringe into 400 mgs a week. I have the insulin syringe that says 100units.
 

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I'm pretty sure 100 units is 1 mL. Oil is pretty thick to be pushed through such a small gauge needle though bud. Its gonna take you forever. I hope it's not cold there. I absolutely love 23 gauge, 1 inch, 3 mL syringes. I swear by them.
 

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Yeah as above. 100units is one ml and personally I couldn’t push test through a 31g but some guys manage it. Defo warm it imo.

im also a 23g fan for glutes. I get a 25g into delts but smaller volumes.

to work out volumes we need to know the concentration of your test.

for example if it’s 300mg a ml then you want 1.33ml a week to equal 400mg. So then split 1.33ml by the number of pins. Ie if you do the traditional 2x per week you need to fill that syringe to 67units each pin.
 

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Thank you guys for your replies, this could have potentially went badly lol so its greatly appreciated but as far as the concentration, it is 250.
 
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You would be much better off with a 3ml syringe, I prefer 25 guage. Thin enough that there is no pain, but thick enough that the oil can still flow. Will give you a little bit of tension while pushing the plunger but just go slow and it will go.
 
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If you insist on trying Slin pins, they make 27 & 28 gauge.

I use luer-lock 3ml syringes, twist on an 18g to draw, then swap to a 25g to pin glutes or delts. I have huge glutes and high bodyfat so I use 1.5” length, but most guys will have no need to get longer than 1” or 1.25”. If I put it in the delt, I will not bury the 1.5” needle because I have much leaner delts at any bodyfat and it just doesn’t need to be nearly that long to hit muscle there.
 

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If you insist on trying Slin pins, they make 27 & 28 gauge.

I use luer-lock 3ml syringes, twist on an 18g to draw, then swap to a 25g to pin glutes or delts. I have huge glutes and high bodyfat so I use 1.5” length, but most guys will have no need to get longer than 1” or 1.25”. If I put it in the delt, I will not bury the 1.5” needle because I have much leaner delts at any bodyfat and it just doesn’t need to be nearly that long to hit muscle there.
Thanks for the reply, I actually purchased a 28 gauge slin pin, this may sound ridiculous but what im really lost with the dosage using this pin, i have 250 test enanthate and i dont know what is a moderate dosage or how many units to use. I know it needs to be split throughout the week to maintain stable blood levels but how my units do i need for each slit dose ?
 
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Thanks for the reply, I actually purchased a 28 gauge slin pin, this may sound ridiculous but what im really lost with the dosage using this pin, i have 250 test enanthate and i dont know what is a moderate dosage or how many units to use. I know it needs to be split throughout the week to maintain stable blood levels but how my units do i need for each slit dose ?
1ml=1cc. So 1ml of 250mg/ml test means you will need 0.8ml/cc per shot to get a 200mg shot, and you will pin that twice per week to achieve 400 total mg weekly.

Fill the syringe to 0.8ml, or 80 units, or 4/5th said another way. Take 2 shots like that weekly and you are set my man.
 
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Thanks for the reply, I actually purchased a 28 gauge slin pin, this may sound ridiculous but what im really lost with the dosage using this pin, i have 250 test enanthate and i dont know what is a moderate dosage or how many units to use. I know it needs to be split throughout the week to maintain stable blood levels but how my units do i need for each slit dose ?
It's actually really easier as Hyde said: use syringes that have interchangeable needles, that way you can draw with a 21/23g and pin with a 28g. You are going to doze off while waiting for the oil to come through the vial into the needle. Pining is a bit faster. I personally use 25g for glutes and a slin pin for quads and delts.

Using interchangeable needles also means that the needle you will pin your self with wont be blunted from the drawing of the oil from the vial.

The fact that you can't calculate how much ml or units you need to use is a bit disconcerting. Maybe you should do a bit more research before you proceed with your cycle?
 

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1ml=1cc. So 1ml of 250mg/ml test means you will need 0.8ml/cc per shot to get a 200mg shot, and you will pin that twice per week to achieve 400 total mg weekly.

Fill the syringe to 0.8ml, or 80 units, or 4/5th said another way. Take 2 shots like that weekly and you are set my man.
Thank you very much , as i explained before this is my first time and you simplified this immensely.
 
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It’s perfectly fine to inject with slin pins but the idea for oils like test will be 28-29 gauges. I use 29 gauges when I pin my cruise dose. The only problem is I don’t really recommend going over half the syringe of you might encounter problems because it’s not deep enough. So yes slin pins is fine but if you’re pinning a volume like 500mg you’ll be required to pin everyday. If you think you can pin a 100unit (1ml which is 250mg usually) all at once with a slin pin it’s a very bad idea. Also you’ll be required to pin at areas where there’s not a lot of fat tissue to avoid pinning subq exemple shoulders.
 
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about converting.. 100units = 1ml. Your test bottle will say something like 1ml = 250mg. At this point you can easily do the math I hope so? If not don’t do steroids.
 
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It’s perfectly fine to inject with slin pins but the idea for oils like test will be 28-29 gauges. I use 29 gauges when I pin my cruise dose. The only problem is I don’t really recommend going over half the syringe of you might encounter problems because it’s not deep enough. So yes slin pins is fine but if you’re pinning a volume like 500mg you’ll be required to pin everyday. If you think you can pin a 100unit (1ml which is 250mg usually) all at once with a slin pin it’s a very bad idea. Also you’ll be required to pin at areas where there’s not a lot of fat tissue to avoid pinning subq exemple shoulders.
This is very good advice that nobody thought off.

Now that I think about it I would add that pining 1ml, or a bit less with a slin pin, is also a bad idea bc it takes a long time to inject. And all the while you're pushing the plunger, you are moving the needle right, left, up and down inside your muscle, damaging the tissue. It's also more painful the longer the needle stays inside the muscle.
 
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You guys are weirdos, pinning a full 1ml syringe is much easier (flow wise) than 1ml oil in a 3ml barrel.
I know but if I buy a box of 100x 3ml syringes I’m basically set for any blast combo
 
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You guys are weirdos, pinning a full 1ml syringe is much easier (flow wise) than 1ml oil in a 3ml barrel.
Definetly. Not enough surface pressure in a 3ml syringe for smaller needles. You need a larger needle for it. 1ml with a 25g or 2ml with a 23g is imo a good combo. But a 25 also works with a 2ml, just not as quick as a 23 which is imo optimal for a 2ml.
 
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If the T is MCT based and you warm the bottle before drawing it, you can easily fill a 29g slin pin. I have been doing it for months! You are site limited because of the 1/2" needle length, but if your body fat is low enough, this isn't much of an issue. I sleep with the vial in my pajama pants pocket and pin in bed when I wake up. Body heat is plenty to thin MCT to water like consistancy.
 
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If the T is MCT based and you warm the bottle before drawing it, you can easily fill a 29g slin pin. I have been doing it for months! You are site limited because of the 1/2" needle length, but if your body fat is low enough, this isn't much of an issue. I sleep with the vial in my pajama pants pocket and pin in bed when I wake up. Body heat is plenty to thin MCT to water like consistancy.
I dont know which is worse, you sleep with a vial of test on you, or you sleep in "pyjamas"🤓
 
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If the T is MCT based and you warm the bottle before drawing it, you can easily fill a 29g slin pin. I have been doing it for months! You are site limited because of the 1/2" needle length, but if your body fat is low enough, this isn't much of an issue. I sleep with the vial in my pajama pants pocket and pin in bed when I wake up. Body heat is plenty to thin MCT to water like consistancy.
Ahahahahahaha

Now that's called determination.

This is definitely a contender for post of the year.
 
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Oh for sure bro, and Teddy bears are soooo much fun too. Laughs and cuddles........................











...................said no bodybuilder EVER!!! 😁

Ok, I'm kidding. Haven't posted 'round here in a while - just trying some new mojo today.

I think I've derailed this thread enough for one day. Carry on folks. 🧸
 

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I dont know which is worse, you sleep with a vial of test on you, or you sleep in "pyjamas"🤓
hahahaha, I had that exact though. For me to keep the test vial near me it’d have to go in my ass cheeks 🤣
 
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That's pretty freaky.
The way she looked at him. ...
 
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Damn, folders makes you want to incest. That's some special coffee right there. They should put a warning label on the packaging or something.
 

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