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Heat degradation of prohormones

PastorofMuppets

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This may seem obvious to some, but I definitely noticed that my last 2week cycle of m1t + 4ad definitely lost its kick.


Diet was sound, training was to the max, but I definitely didn't "feel" this cycle as much as my last two. I even bumped up the m1t dosages to 35mgs a day, and only then it was the last 5 days and only then did I start to see more effects.

My only theory is that heat degradation definitely took it's toll on my m1t supply. Recently I moved to Florida and nearly the entire trip down in my car it was 80-90 degrees, couple that with the fact that my supply of m1t is 3 months old.

Am I overanalyzing?
 
I've wondered this myself.

But then think about the oral solutions people make--you bake/heat the PEG/oral solution until it's 200-250, and add the powder...people swear it doesn't effect the efficacy, and that's twice the heat yours was exposed to..

A more likely reason could be the fact that you've used M1T a couple times before, and you don't respond the same way...although the fact that you were at 35mg. and not feeling it is strange...on the other hand, the "leveling off" of the dosage response curve seems to be about 20mgs. for most people.

Also, maybe you now need more than 2 weeks? A lot of longtime juicers scoff at 2-week cycles.
 
Yes, perhaps you're right. Two previous m1t/4ad cycles may have desensitized me a bit.

Ah well, at least I have an excuse to finally convert this 1-tc and 5aa-cyp for the next cycle:)
 
Brodus said:
I've wondered this myself.

But then think about the oral solutions people make--you bake/heat the PEG/oral solution until it's 200-250, and add the powder...people swear it doesn't effect the efficacy, and that's twice the heat yours was exposed to..
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haven't people been making conversions/solutions in this manner for pinning as well (different solution) without loss of efficacy.

A more likely reason could be the fact that you've used M1T a couple times before, and you don't respond the same way...although the fact that you were at 35mg. and not feeling it is strange...on the other hand, the "leveling off" of the dosage response curve seems to be about 20mgs. for most people.
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I would suspect this as well. I'm on 30mg/d and feel little to nothing adverse as I had on previous cycles. I have previously progressed as high as 50mg/d (for about a week) in a 4 weeks cycle and ran another cycle 35mg/d for 4 weeks. The feeling (or lack of) I get makes me want to up the dose, but my strength/size is going up, so I will refrain. I have had my powder for quite a bit longer than you, but in a climate controled environment.

I am considering using grapefruit juice next time to see what come of it.
 
my 3rd m1t cycle did less for me at double the dose than the first. I think I did too many m1t cycles too close together. I took 7 weeks off after my last 3wk m1t cycle and felt great.
 
I would not worry about the heat as much as the humidity. But it could be from previous use of the product, who knows...
 
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