HCGenerate alternatives

chocolatemilk said:
i haven't tried it yet on cycle but i am using it now probably 11-13 days in... the sh*t does make my balls bigger for sure and my libido is just raging finally again after having it left me for a month and my woods are just f***ing intense lol i love this sh*t

i can definitely see this stopping complete atrophy. i don't think it will completely stop atrophy... but it will to a degree for sure... how much tho?... i have heard nothing but good things and will find out next cycle
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are u talking about HCGenerate now?? or something else?
 
thanks...cant wait to try it with my beast cycle, will be starting in the next couple of weeks...ill be sure to let everyone know how it goes!
 
Why is it that when I look into user feedback on cassis grandis I get nothing but person after person saying it did nothing for them and taste horrible. Iam not btw doubting or bashing ntbm and am always happy to see new supp companies here. Just saying from what I read cassis is an old supp that never panned out for almost everyone who used it. To be honest I would still wanna friggin try it if np would restock and/or keep the prices where they are for another month.
 
wideguy said:
Why is it that when I look into user feedback on cassis grandis I get nothing but person after person saying it did nothing for them and taste horrible. Iam not btw doubting or bashing ntbm and am always happy to see new supp companies here. Just saying from what I read cassis is an old supp that never panned out for almost everyone who used it. To be honest I would still wanna friggin try it if np would restock and/or keep the prices where they are for another month.
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This is sold in bulk somewhere? Can you show me, I've never seen it before anywhere.

Also, would you please post 2 or 3 links of 'all' these negative reviews you're referencing? I, also, have never once seen these.
 
chocolatemilk said:
1-3 dimeth is known to have certain effects down there... vasoconstrictive

its fine once in a while but prolonged excessive use could give you stim d***

the vasoconstrictive part down there was definitely not helping me in my PCT to recover cuz i was using it like a mad man for all workouts

adderlin from now on for pct as my stim

but off pct i will still throw in the 1-3 dimeth its just so f***ing good
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Really? Ummm, I thought the general effect of stims was to open up the blood vessels, this allowing more blood to flow?
 
I do not know how tg o post links with my phone. I googled it carao use and steroidology.com has a few threads saying how most people got nothing from it and there where
 
Dammit sorry I suck with this phone, there were some on elite also. The titles where does anybody actually still use this stuff\foul tasting sh*t. Its sold to help anemia I think usually used in horses but alot of bobdybuilders and other people have used it.
 
On cycle i would take:

75mg DHEA
1.5 Tribulus
3g DAA (10 days on,5 off so you can still use it in PCT)
ZMA

That should keep shutdown at bay. HCGenerate is still the best tho.
 
gymrat827 said:
On cycle i would take:

75mg DHEA
1.5 Tribulus
3g DAA (10 days on,5 off so you can still use it in PCT)
ZMA

That should keep shutdown at bay. HCGenerate is still the best tho.
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For what cycle?
Either way, it matters little, since none of that will do much to maintain endogenous test in the presence of exogenous androgens.
 
Why is it that when I look into user feedback on cassis grandis I get nothing but person after person saying it did nothing for them and taste horrible. Iam not btw doubting or bashing ntbm and am always happy to see new supp companies here. Just saying from what I read cassis is an old supp that never panned out for almost everyone who used it. To be honest I would still wanna friggin try it if np would restock and/or keep the prices where they are for another month.
 
wideguy said:
Why is it that when I look into user feedback on cassis grandis I get nothing but person after person saying it did nothing for them and taste horrible. Iam not btw doubting or bashing ntbm and am always happy to see new supp companies here. Just saying from what I read cassis is an old supp that never panned out for almost everyone who used it. To be honest I would still wanna friggin try it if np would restock and/or keep the prices where they are for another month.
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Can you please list a couple examples/URLs from 'person after person?'
 
wideguy said:
Hey J did u look into that or just stop in to say "yeah right".
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no, I didn't take the time to search for studies on it to post, but just from what i know on all of the listed ingredients, none of them do anything to prevent lh desensitization in the testes from what I know.

there may be somethin to them I dont, but as far as Im aware, they dont.

I think hcgenerate is good aid along with clomid during pct, but didn't really noticed it helping me on cycle. but i run some harsh cycles.

and then, on another note, as good as I think hcgenerate is, I'd never pay for it out of my own pocket. it's too expensive for me. if you can afford it, great. i cant.
 
I agree...very overrated product, like most others from NTBM...woops that just slipped out :p
 
jbryand101b said:
no, I didn't take the time to search for studies on it to post, but just from what i know on all of the listed ingredients, none of them do anything to prevent lh desensitization in the testes from what I know.

there may be somethin to them I dont, but as far as Im aware, they dont.

I think hcgenerate is good aid along with clomid during pct, but didn't really noticed it helping me on cycle. but i run some harsh cycles.

and then, on another note, as good as I think hcgenerate is, I'd never pay for it out of my own pocket. it's too expensive for me. if you can afford it, great. i cant.
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J what are your thoughts on DAA on cycle to prevent level of shutdown?
 
I havn't looked much into daa, but I dont think it does anything for the testes.

you'd be better off asking somone more knowledgeable on the subject. i dont know of anything that has been proven in the scientific community to work like hcg does.
 
jbryand101b said:
I havn't looked much into daa, but I dont think it does anything for the testes.

you'd be better off asking somone more knowledgeable on the subject. i dont know of anything that has been proven in the scientific community to work like hcg does.
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Okay man appreciate the honest reply.
 
I'm not sure to what extent, but Dante recommends anyone doing blast cruise cycles to use DAA during cruise phases to sensitize and restate things. Have never tried it but it seems possible that it may do some good. Eric of PP on super human radio awhile back talked about tcf-1, and basically said DAA is like going through puberty again.ha
 
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