HCG Monotherapy?

kris90

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So coming off 200mg of Test E for 5 weeks, here is my bloodwork:

Prolactin: 10 ug/L (Ref: 3-13)
LH: < 1 IU/L (Ref: 1-9)
FSH: < 1 IU/L (Ref: 1-19)
Estradiol: 47 pmol/L (Ref: 40-160)
Total T: 3.9 nmol/L (Ref: 6.1-27.1)
Free T: 111 pmol/L (Ref: 110-660)
Bioavailable T: 2.6 nmol/L (Ref: 2.8-15.5)
SHBG: 13 nmol/L (Ref: 13-89)

I felt awful during this time. I have been fatigued, noticed very achy shoulders and stiffness upon waking, anxiety, heart palpitations/arrhythmia, and lost muscle + gained fat in midsection.

Surprisingly, I didn't get the prescription for Delatestryl or Depo Testosterone. My Urologist wants to investigate a little further to find the cause of my low T (he obviously was not surprised by my results above since this was all to be expected with a hormone crash). My previous levels were Bioavailable T of 3.7 and LH at 2, with FSH at 1 and that was 5 months after being off any exogenous T. Therefore, I have suspected secondary hypogonadism.

My Urologist is sending me for an MRI of my pituitary, and in the meantime if I wanted therapy, he recommended either clomid or HCG. I have actually used HCG short-term to get my wife pregnant after finding out my LH and FSH were low, and I felt some improvement on it, however, clomid did nothing for me.

So I opted for HCG therapy. My Urologist wanted to prescribe me 2500 IU injections 3x per week, but I thought that was a little excessive, so we agreed upon 1000 IU 3x per week. Just wondering if anyone has had any success with HCG monotherapy? I have 4 months worth, and will be getting bloodwork done in June. How worried should I be about my E2 levels spiking? Luckily my Urologist will prescribe Arimidex if needed, but only if my E2 levels appear elevated.
 
Might be more than what you need, but only one way to find out. Do that for a few weeks and test. Make sure you check for free T and E2.
 
dhickey said:
Might be more than what you need, but only one way to find out. Do that for a few weeks and test. Make sure you check for free T and E2.
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Thanks. He doesn't want to follow up until June which is a long time. But I'm due for a physical soon, so maybe I'll ask my family doc to check my T and E2 levels.
 
kris90 said:
Thanks. He doesn't want to follow up until June which is a long time. But I'm due for a physical soon, so maybe I'll ask my family doc to check my T and E2 levels.
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Yeah, you'll want to deal with potential E2 issues before then. Get tested after a few weeks. Post the results here.
 
Kris90,

What was the protocol your urologist put you on for fertility? Did it work? About how long did you run the protocol for?

Thanks!
 
ELROCK said:
Kris90,

What was the protocol your urologist put you on for fertility? Did it work? About how long did you run the protocol for?

Thanks!
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I actually self treated for fertility. My wife and I were trying for about 5 months, and it didn't happen. Also started to feel crappy so I got bloodwork and found low T, low LH and low FSH. That was around November/December. My doctor said he will refer me to a Urologist, but wasn't sure when I would get in. I was impatient so I decided to treat myself with HCG, and it restored my fertility within weeks, as my wife is now 4 months pregnant! :)

The protocol I ran was something like this:
Week 1: 2500 IU shots 2x per week
Week 2: 1000 IU shots 3x per week
Week 3-4: 500 IU shots EOD

After that, I went on Clomid for a short while, but as soon as I found out my wife was pregnant (she conceived around my 3rd week on HCG), I jumped on Test E @ 200mg/week I was on 200mg for about 4 weeks before having my appointment with my Urologist. I told him everything and he said to stop the Test, and get bloodwork. So I did, and that's where I'm at now (prescribed HCG Monotherapy, 1000 IU 3x per week). We'll see how it goes.
 
kris90 said:
I actually self treated for fertility. My wife and I were trying for about 5 months, and it didn't happen. Also started to feel crappy so I got bloodwork and found low T, low LH and low FSH. That was around November/December. My doctor said he will refer me to a Urologist, but wasn't sure when I would get in. I was impatient so I decided to treat myself with HCG, and it restored my fertility within weeks, as my wife is now 4 months pregnant! :) The protocol I ran was something like this: Week 1: 2500 IU shots 2x per week Week 2: 1000 IU shots 3x per week Week 3-4: 500 IU shots EOD After that, I went on Clomid for a short while, but as soon as I found out my wife was pregnant (she conceived around my 3rd week on HCG), I jumped on Test E @ 200mg/week I was on 200mg for about 4 weeks before having my appointment with my Urologist. I told him everything and he said to stop the Test, and get bloodwork. So I did, and that's where I'm at now (prescribed HCG Monotherapy, 1000 IU 3x per week). We'll see how it goes.
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Congrats man! Thanks for the input.
 
ELROCK said:
Congrats man! Thanks for the input.
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I should also add, I was taking Aromasin at I believe 12.5mg/EOD during that HCG blast.

Currently, I am not taking an AI with my HCG, and I have no libido and very fatigued. So I'm guessing my E2 is high right now.
 
I was on HCG 1000iu twice a week. The initial blast of 5 injections a week got me from around T, Serum of 887 from around 385. My libido and mood were great and I felt great all around. Lately I haven't been getting the response I want out of HCG so I'm going back in for more tests and might switch out to just injecting T, but I did get great results from HCG originally with no side affects and no estrogen problems.
 
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