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havoc w/ furazadrol or 1t?

faaipdeoiad

faaipdeoiad

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im about 195, 6'2 and 21, been lifting for about 8 years, done a few cycles so far. Ive been meaning to try havoc but was unsure on what to stack it with. I've been reading up quite a bit on both 1t and furazadrol and im not really sure which would stack better. Im planning on using it in a recomp but my main goals are to lose bodyfat without losing any much size or even gaining a little. Im currently somewhere between 10 and 13 percent bf and i really want to drop this last couple percent as its been almost impossible. Given this, which would seem to fit better? I also have otc pcts already, so if any can be used with these it would obviously be preferable. (have post cycle support/ reversitol/ lean xtreme/ 6oxo/ zma). 1t is obviously more expensive including all the pp post cycle supps but id be willing to throw down a little extra if the results are that much better. any comments would help. thanks
 
ok cool, would a 5 week of 20,30,30,40,40 havoc and 200,200,250,250 furazadrol (starting w2) work? and would i be ok with the otc pct or is nolva necessary. most of the logs ive read used nolva but id prefer not to if possible. (im a bit paranoid about buying it plus i already have some here, but if i need to i can try to find some) Ive been ok off my last cycles on just pct (ran a high dose of xtreme tren but never stacked 2 before)
 
faaipdeoiad said:
ok cool, would a 5 week of 20,30,30,40,40 havoc and 200,200,250,250 furazadrol (starting w2) work? and would i be ok with the otc pct or is nolva necessary. most of the logs ive read used nolva but id prefer not to if possible. (im a bit paranoid about buying it plus i already have some here, but if i need to i can try to find some) Ive been ok off my last cycles on just pct (ran a high dose of xtreme tren but never stacked 2 before)
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I wouldn't run that cycle without a serm but that's just me. That five weeker would be very nice.
 
run the furaz the whole 5 weeks..id say these two are perfect for recomp..1T would be better for bulk probably since dhea also converts to estrogen but we'll see what peeps say..pry want some fish oil with this cycle..gluck
 
**** ok il order some nolva and sit on it in case anything comes up. and i was thinking of doing the furaz all 5 weeks but id need to order another bottle for that, at 50 bucks apiece i was a bit reluctant. would the gains be that much better?
 
furaz is a great compound for recomp...this is often used with h-drol.

I'd run the Furaz as well and I'd get another bottle...

the furaz should keep the gains on the epi really dry :thumbsup:
 
just dont run it at 250 the last 2 weeks and run it at 200 all 5 weeks..this is a complimentary hormone and doesn't have to be run over 200mg unless you are runnin it alone..this should be very dry as epi is dry in its own right
 
damn ok, thats 3 bottles of furaz + slightly over one of havoc. i think i prefer dry cycles, the last ive done have been too
 
epi's gonna be dry one way or another, but the furaz sure as sh!t ain'tgonna hurt none. I love the stuff personally. If it were me, I'd snort 450mg daily along w/ my epi. :nutkick:

I'd recommend dosing 300mg furaz the whole ride, front to back, and I'd extend to 6 weeks. Epi, on the other hand, doesn't do much for me past week 5. I might consider doing something like this with it:

epi (weeks 1-5) 10/20/30/30/40
furaz (weeks 1-6) 300

And yes, DEFINITELY have a SERM lined up for pct, dude.
 
300? really? i could consider doing 6 weeks of furaz, but thats about 4 bottles il need. the logs ive seen that stacked it didnt really have it go above 200mg. im not sure id want to go above 250 just to be safe, especially if its for 5-6 weeks. i dunno though, this is getting trickier. any other input is welcomed before i plan it out. i have 2 bottles of havoc and 2 furazadrol arriving within the week, im gonna look for 1-2 more furaz plus nolva. hoping to start the cycle within a few weeks. i can try to run a log too if people are actually interested

ive actually been reluctant to buy nolva as i dont really trust the validity of most sources ive looked at, but i guess i dont have any other options. If anyone would be willing to help me out with this problem could u pm/ email me with some help on this matter. thanks

(so apparently im 6 posts short of posting my email address so a pm would be great.)
 
ok for sure, il make one when i receive everything and work out my cycle

furazadrol + havoc
+ dcp and igf2 (for last few weeks +pct)
 
faaipdeoiad said:
ok for sure, il make one when i receive everything and work out my cycle

furazadrol + havoc
+ dcp and igf2 (for last few weeks +pct)
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what is the logic from including the igf2 while ON?
 
dunno thought it might be good for recovery and pct. i used powerfull last time through the cycle and it seemed to work well, thought this might be kinda the same deal
 
my personal thoughts would be to save it for PCT.

the IGF2 would be beneficial for keeping prolactin down, but you should be able to keep this under control with some p-5-p...epi is also androgenic.

I do think that running the DCP during this cycle would kick ass! considered adding in come sesamin?
 
ohh okay cool il just hold on to it then til pct. ive actually been meaning to try some sesamin, never taken any before. i could grab some of that too before i start, it couldnt hurt
 
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