Havoc PCT

Blackspider24

Blackspider24

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Happy holidays to start off with fellas!!

I had a question and hope you guys can steer me in the right direction!!

Planning on running a Havoc pulse cycle (maybe straight cycle). Contemplating between the two method.

Ran H-drol last year and want to give havoc a go, since alot of ppl are having great results with it.

I wanted to know how should I take Activate Extreme? Like it states on the bottle? Or does it need to be tapered down along with the 6-oxo?

My cycle looks like this (came across this from searching around and looks like an excellent plan):

Weeks 1-4 PCS/I3C/ZMA PCS would be dosed 2 caps in the morning and 2 in the evening preferably 8-12 hours apart. I3C would be dosed 400-600 mgs every day and ZMA at bedtime as directed on teh bottle.

Weeks 4-7 6-oxo This would begin high at 400 mgs and taper down to 100 in the last week. 400/300/200/100

Weeks 3-6 Lean Xtreme or any other cort blocker you like at 3 caps every day.

Thanks in advance!!!
 
Blackspider24 said:
Happy holidays to start off with fellas!!

I had a question and hope you guys can steer me in the right direction!!

Planning on running a Havoc pulse cycle (maybe straight cycle). Contemplating between the two method.

Ran H-drol last year and want to give havoc a go, since alot of ppl are having great results with it.

I wanted to know how should I take Activate Extreme? Like it states on the bottle? Or does it need to be tapered down along with the 6-oxo?

My cycle looks like this (came across this from searching around and looks like an excellent plan):

Weeks 1-4 PCS/I3C/ZMA PCS would be dosed 2 caps in the morning and 2 in the evening preferably 8-12 hours apart. I3C would be dosed 400-600 mgs every day and ZMA at bedtime as directed on teh bottle.

Weeks 4-7 6-oxo This would begin high at 400 mgs and taper down to 100 in the last week. 400/300/200/100

Weeks 3-6 Lean Xtreme or any other cort blocker you like at 3 caps every day.

Thanks in advance!!!
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if you do add the oxo start it at the beginning of week 4 with the activate x, and i would personally run the lean FX from day 1-30 of PCT.

but this is a long extended PCT, and it is effective,

PCS I3C ZMA would be fine for havoc with Lean X, and 6oxo would be optional (i personally like an AI in my PCT so choose Trione by nutraplanet or ATD or 6Bromo)

but it looks good.
 
Blackspider24 said:
Happy holidays to start off with fellas!!

I had a question and hope you guys can steer me in the right direction!!

Planning on running a Havoc pulse cycle (maybe straight cycle). Contemplating between the two method.

Ran H-drol last year and want to give havoc a go, since alot of ppl are having great results with it.

I wanted to know how should I take Activate Extreme? Like it states on the bottle? Or does it need to be tapered down along with the 6-oxo?

My cycle looks like this (came across this from searching around and looks like an excellent plan):

Weeks 1-4 PCS/I3C/ZMA PCS would be dosed 2 caps in the morning and 2 in the evening preferably 8-12 hours apart. I3C would be dosed 400-600 mgs every day and ZMA at bedtime as directed on teh bottle.

Weeks 4-7 6-oxo This would begin high at 400 mgs and taper down to 100 in the last week. 400/300/200/100

Weeks 3-6 Lean Xtreme or any other cort blocker you like at 3 caps every day.

Thanks in advance!!!
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Not wanting to scare you, but last week someone posted a thread where he had prolactin issues in PCT for a havoc cycle...

The PCT scheme was the one you're using.


It's up to you, but i would start 6-oxo immediatly after cycle.
as estrogen would be low, taper up 6-oxo for 1.5 week and then taper it down.

somthin like 100/200/300/200/100 or similar

Ofcourse you can still add PCS, ZMA and L3C

just MHO.
 
Thanks for the reply. I will go for the OTC-PCT. Not a big fan of research chems. But will get one just in case things go south.

What is your intake on taking PCS on off days, if I decided to go with the Pulse method with the Havoc.
 
Blackspider24 said:
Thanks for the reply. I will go for the OTC-PCT. Not a big fan of research chems. But will get one just in case things go south.

What is your intake on taking PCS on off days, if I decided to go with the Pulse method with the Havoc.
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PCS on off days is a great idea on a pulse.
 
crazyfool405 said:
maybe for a few weeks (2 or so, depends on the compound pulsed and the duration of the cycle which would determine what PCT as well as length)
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I agree maybe a week or 2 after the cycle keep running the Post Cycle Support.:thumbsup:
 
pembroke3355 said:
I agree maybe a week or 2 after the cycle keep running the Post Cycle Support.:thumbsup:
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Ok I like how that sounds. I was thinking of running a Havoc pulse as well. I would be taking it Mon, Tue, Thurs, Fri. 20/20/30/30/??? or 20/30/30/30/???

Giving me wed, Sat and Sun off. I would take two about an hour before I work out and one after I work out when bump it up to 30mg. OR is that too low of a dose?

So right now I have 20/20/30/30/??? (maybe higher) Four days a week

Then I would be taking PCS on the off days and at least two weeks if not more into my PCT. I also want some suggestions on cortisol control (LeanFX??) or a 11-oxo bridge???? and something for estrogen control.

I don't care for ATD is it kills my libido, so I was thinking 6-oxo or Bromo?? I haven't tried Bromo yet. 6-oxo didn't do much for me when I ran it solo last year but I have no problem taking it if you guys think its the best route for OTC pct.

You guys have any OTC pct stacks that you have thought up but haven't been able to try yet? Let me know and we can discuss :thumbsup:
 
tmachovec said:
Ok I like how that sounds. I was thinking of running a Havoc pulse as well. I would be taking it Mon, Tue, Thurs, Fri. 20/20/30/30/??? or 20/30/30/30/???

Giving me wed, Sat and Sun off. I would take two about an hour before I work out and one after I work out when bump it up to 30mg. OR is that too low of a dose?

So right now I have 20/20/30/30/??? (maybe higher) Four days a week

Then I would be taking PCS on the off days and at least two weeks if not more into my PCT. I also want some suggestions on cortisol control (LeanFX??) or a 11-oxo bridge???? and something for estrogen control.

I don't care for ATD is it kills my libido, so I was thinking 6-oxo or Bromo?? I haven't tried Bromo yet. 6-oxo didn't do much for me when I ran it solo last year but I have no problem taking it if you guys think its the best route for OTC pct.

You guys have any OTC pct stacks that you have thought up but haven't been able to try yet? Let me know and we can discuss :thumbsup:
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Trione and reversitol and primal male.

havent tried it out yet but i know its awesome.
 
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