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Havoc, or ?

herk

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Hello everyone,
I have ran a cycle of havoc before without a SERM, and had no negative sides (I know now that that was stupid). Anyway, I want to run another PH on a upcoming deployment to afghanistan. So that is the big problem for me is that I cant use any "research" products, or anything that would be illegal. I wont be leaving the "wire", and I will have access to a gym whenever I need. My diet is, and will be on point. I just wanted some ideas, and alot of you guys on this forum really seem to know what you are doing. I just wanted to know what some of you guys would do if you were in this position. Thanks in advance.
 
I forgot to mention that my goal will be a clean bulk. my last deployment I got up to 210lbs at about 5% BF, but I tore my labrum and needed shoulder surgery this summer, after recovery I had dropped to 185lbs, but I am back to about 200lbs now.
 
Mass drops, 4ad, x gells. I would not recommend running epi again without proper pct. It's not a pro hormone either it's a active steroid. You might not notice sides now but in the long run you probably will.
 
Yeah, I really didnt do any research when I did Havoc, but now I am aware that havoc converts to a active steroid after ingested.
 
Yeah, I really didnt do any research when I did Havoc, but now I am aware that havoc converts to a active steroid after ingested. The biggest thing is I am looking for something that doesnt need a SERM.
 
herk said:
Yeah, I really didnt do any research when I did Havoc, but now I am aware that havoc converts to a active steroid after ingested. The biggest thing is I am looking for something that doesnt need a SERM.
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Havoc doesn't convert, it already is an active steroid, methylepitiostanol.
 
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