Yes this is in the wrong forum but to answer you question both are very good. Bold is a non methyl so it may be safer for a 1st cycle. Havoc is a methyl but is fairly mild and produces very nice gain. Do some research on support supps and pct then you can make a informed decision. I wish you the best bro:thumbsup:
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