havoc/mega zol stack - ideas anyone???

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What do you guys think about a 4week Havoc/Mega Zol stack?

or a Havoc/Tren stack.

Just an idea, not a certain thing at this stage, just throwing the idea outhere to see what you all think :think:

happy new year to you all.

 

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What do you guys think about a 4week Havoc/Mega Zol stack?

or a Havoc/Tren stack.

Just an idea, not a certain thing at this stage, just throwing the idea outhere to see what you all think :think:

happy new year to you all.

Kind of opposite ends of the spectrum with your ideas. One is the probably the mildest compound to come to the market and the other is one of the most potent.

Havoc/Zol, atleast from what i've read of the logs, would be a good strength/recomp cycle. Decent weight gains, but not that harsh.

Havoc/Tren should, in theory, be amazing for gains. Strength would be through the roof and you should blow up in size. Might want some sort of test though, if you like sex or have a significant other. Maybe something like this:

Havoc 20mg/ED for 4 weeks
Test/Tren 75mgED/37.5mgED for 8 Weeks

I would bet that would be an amazing cycle, but also very suppressive.

The real question is, what is your goal for this cycle?

 

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Kind of opposite ends of the spectrum with your ideas. One is the probably the mildest compound to come to the market and the other is one of the most potent.

Havoc/Zol, atleast from what i've read of the logs, would be a good strength/recomp cycle. Decent weight gains, but not that harsh.

Havoc/Tren should, in theory, be amazing for gains. Strength would be through the roof and you should blow up in size. Might want some sort of test though, if you like sex or have a significant other. Maybe something like this:

Havoc 20mg/ED for 4 weeks
Test/Tren 75mgED/37.5mgED for 8 Weeks

I would bet that would be an amazing cycle, but also very suppressive.

The real question is, what is your goal for this cycle?

lean hard gains my friend, not keen on too much shutdown

was thinking up running zol up to first week at 150mgs a day, 2nd week at 200mgs a day and weeks 3 & 4 at 250 - 300mgs a day

havoc would not be run any higher than 20-30mgs a day

what do you think?

as i say, i'm just tossing around a few ideas, got a havoc on the way and wondering about something to accompany it, zol would be a mild addition i though, tren may just be a little too much

thanks for the feedback

 

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lean hard gains my friend, not keen on too much shutdown

was thinking up running zol up to first week at 150mgs a day, 2nd week at 200mgs a day and weeks 3 & 4 at 250 - 300mgs a day

havoc would not be run any higher than 20-30mgs a day

what do you think?

as i say, i'm just tossing around a few ideas, got a havoc on the way and wondering about something to accompany it, zol would be a mild addition i though, tren may just be a little too much

thanks for the feedback

Well if you're not keen on shutdown, avoid tren. I don't know much about havoc shutdown, I don't think most really do yet, but I would bet it would be mid-range as far as supression. Havoc + zol would be a good recomp/strength cycle. Might gain some decent lean mass as well, depending on the calories. I personally don't do short oral only cycles anymore, but it should work well. Maybe 200mg/ED of DHEA to mimic endogenous testosterone levels as well. Though as short as the cycle is it may not be needed, but if you get lidibo loss then thats a good cheap way to recover it while on.

Maybe Havoc 10,10,20,20 (depending on if you've run it before, bump it 10 each if you have)
Zol 150,200,250,300 if you can tolerate it, I've never tried it have heard mixed reviews, if you have tried it then you should know what works for you.

This should be an interesting cycle, just careful with the joints,as there will no circulating estrogen and zol, like winny, should weaken joints to some extent. Just something to keep in mind if you might be verging on injury.

Let us know what you decide to do and please keep a log if you have time. Good luck.

 

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Well if you're not keen on shutdown, avoid tren. I don't know much about havoc shutdown, I don't think most really do yet, but I would bet it would be mid-range as far as supression. Havoc + zol would be a good recomp/strength cycle. Might gain some decent lean mass as well, depending on the calories. I personally don't do short oral only cycles anymore, but it should work well. Maybe 200mg/ED of DHEA to mimic endogenous testosterone levels as well. Though as short as the cycle is it may not be needed, but if you get lidibo loss then thats a good cheap way to recover it while on.

Maybe Havoc 10,10,20,20 (depending on if you've run it before, bump it 10 each if you have)
Zol 150,200,250,300 if you can tolerate it, I've never tried it have heard mixed reviews, if you have tried it then you should know what works for you.

This should be an interesting cycle, just careful with the joints,as there will no circulating estrogen and zol, like winny, should weaken joints to some extent. Just something to keep in mind if you might be verging on injury.

Let us know what you decide to do and please keep a log if you have time. Good luck.

just throwing ideas around at this stage, definitly use some of the new super cissus for joints etc, let ya know what i decide

thanks for the input